Mispronunciations - an eye opener...
Mispronunciations - an eye opener...
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I came across this site this morning and had no idea that I had been using a few of the mispronunciations listed...
http://www.yourdictionary.com/library/mispron.html
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- Steve
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Same with herb. It was drilled into us in elementary school that the h was silent. Miriam Webster lists the prounciation as "'erb, US also & British usually 'hərb".
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I think this list shows more about the author's cultural bias than anythin else. If anything "spitting image" is a mispronounciation of "splitting image" (although this has become so widely used that my dictionary lists both)
Perhaps we should all take heed of the OP's sig comment.
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My dictionary prefers "erb", but I get corrected quite frequently in Australia.
My dictionary also lists forte with the "e" pronounced for all definitions, so I will continue.
As to pronouncing Australia, I think that should be left to those who speak Strine.
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I don't think so. Tell that to the horse!
Mike McCann
MMC Engineering
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And let's not call nucular an American pronunciation. Most Americans I know of (one famous exception) pronounce it properly.
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Ciao.
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From the 100 list, silicon(e) is one I hear and read frequently, usually silicon.
There's an element of academic snobbery in the article. Dictionary's generally follow a descriptive rather than prescriptive model: English is a living, conglomerate language. To disavow "aks" when admitting its use for over 1,000 years seems disengenuous.
I am reminded of a choir director's instruction for singing diction was to move forward soft consonants to the next word otherwise they often become hard d's. Example line of his "Do you hear wha tI hear"; otherwise, spoken and non careful singing, it comes out "Do you hear whad I hear".
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Oops! In a thread questioning grammar and pronunciation. Bet you wish you could go back and edit it.
- Steve
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One that I hear frequently now and is not on the list is 'mines' instead of 'mine.' I had one person argue the point insisting it's 'yours and mines.'
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"something" becomes "somethink", "nothing" becomes "nothink", etc.
And then furthe down the food chain it gets compounded by some->sump
"something" becomes "sumpthink"
- Steve
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And yet further down it becomes "sumfink" or "nuffink"
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Drives me bananas.
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Back in Blighty it was veer-call.
Even worse in vee-hick-you-laa.
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- Steve
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Cheers
Greg Locock
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Interesting reference. I had never heard the term "back derivation" before and maybe I'll stop gritting my teeth at "orientate".
The one that I just cant abide is "liaise" for "to form a liaison". It just sounds stupid.
David
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One thing that drives me nuts is the omission of "to be" from sentences (call the dialect Midwestics, perhaps), as in "my car needs fixed, and our progress needs reviewed."
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Maybe a grammar checker too ("ALWAYS spell check in this fora")?
I've seen a lot of folk here use "fora" as the plural of "forum" instead of the more common "forums". Of course it is a genuine alternative, but it sounds poncey to me.
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David
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As I recall, in a context like this site 'Forums' is more correct.
I can't recall the details now but I was dissapointed as I though 'Fora' sounded smarter and I need all the help I can get in that department.
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"Data", on the other hand, is receiving increased support for use as a mass noun (like "water" and "furniture"), grammatically treated as singular. I try to avoid using "data" as a subject altogether because no matter which verb form I choose, someone will think it sounds wrong.
Hg
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"Good to know you got shoes to wear when you find the floor." - Robert Hunter
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The good news is that the wife isn't talking to me at the moment and its not because I've done anything wrong, its because she is busy trying out speech recognition.
The bad news is that speech recognition is obviously in its infancy, if what it writes when I speak is anything to go by, and English is my wife's 7th or 8th language.
She is in the speech training section where she has to read he text into the microphone and her English isn't that good.
Microsoft is having a problem with her accent, her frequent mispronunciations and a tendency to use German phonetical pronunciations ("vert" for "word") but she has lived in England now for sufficiently long that she has adopted the British "talking to foreigners too lazy to learn English because they are deaf" shouting method. So she is now shouting in German accented English at her computer.
So, its now one hour in and I'm being deafened. Her English may not be so hot but her Anglo Saxon is pretty good, and some of the words she is using to her computer are the ones I have often wanted to use to Big Bill Gates, but I suspect Big Bill's software is even more in trouble with Anglo Saxon than plain English.
I look forward to the days when we get closer to true artificial intelligence, that's the day when my wife's computer will need therapy, probably treatment for Post Traumatic Shock and certainly for hurt feelings...
she just called it an **** idiot, but at least she isn't shouting at me.
JMW
www.ViscoAnalyser.com
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Where did "al-u-min-ium" come from?
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"Good to know you got shoes to wear when you find the floor." - Robert Hunter
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Regarding data and datum(s), I'm totally with you HgTX. Another one - I normally would use formulae when I have a lot, but found myself recently using formulas. That's evolution I guess. I can't imagine ever wanting to use fora though.
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"Good to know you got shoes to wear when you find the floor." - Robert Hunter
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jmw...I've been using artificial intelligence all my life!