NX run natively on Mac OS?
NX run natively on Mac OS?
(OP)
Hi,
Can anyone tell me if NX is available to run natively on Mac OS yet please? I asked my UK reseller and he didn't know anything about it. Previous threads on this forum from 2007 suggest that it was planned. If so, how does it run in comparison to Windows versions?
Cheers
Can anyone tell me if NX is available to run natively on Mac OS yet please? I asked my UK reseller and he didn't know anything about it. Previous threads on this forum from 2007 suggest that it was planned. If so, how does it run in comparison to Windows versions?
Cheers





RE: NX run natively on Mac OS?
RE: NX run natively on Mac OS?
If any current Siemens PLM Software customer running NX 6 on either Windows or Linux would like to participate in the EAP, please let us know and we will put you in contact with the program manager.
John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
Product Design Solutions
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
Cypress, CA
http://www.siemens.com/plm
http://www.plmworld.org/museum/
To an Engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.
RE: NX run natively on Mac OS?
Is it going to run under an emulator as per Linux or will it be a truly native MAC implementation?
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Hudson
www.jamb.com.au
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RE: NX run natively on Mac OS?
John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
Product Design Solutions
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
Cypress, CA
http://www.siemens.com/plm
http://www.plmworld.org/museum/
To an Engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.
RE: NX run natively on Mac OS?
I can't believe this. After waiting all this time for NX on Mac OS it's not even going to be a true Mac application? I had the opportunity to install and run NX5 (or NX4?) on my Mac Pro using the same setup. NX had to run within X11 and it used the Motif Windowing System. It was an absolute clunky kludge. Very very un-Mac like. Why even bother with such a half hearted attempt you call a "port"?
As much as I hate to say it, most people will have a much better user experience, and higher performance running NX6 in Vista 64 running natively on their Macs. No emulation, no shells, no B.S.
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And before anyone accuse me of not being sympathetic to your needs, in terms of my personal computer preference I've been a Mac user since 1985 and still do all of my home computing on a Mac (I also have a Mac laptop which I take on vacation with me). Also, back when we were still part of McDonnell Douglas, as far as your 'office PC' was concerned, you could opt for either an IBM PC or a Mac, and I picked Mac. And even after our acquisition by EDS, who had a strict anti-Mac policy, me and one other guy in development hung on to our Mac's until we were finally told that they were being replaced with PC's and that there was nothing we could do about it. So please don't assume that I can't appreciate your situation or your desire for something superior to the status quo, but I have to accept the fact that when you're in business, decisions have to be made based on what's best for the OVERALL business. All we can do for now is to try and make this Mac OS port as good as possible (within the constraints given) and hope that the success of and the subsequent pressure from the Mac using community will force a reevaluation of this situation in the not too distant future.
John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
Product Design Solutions
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
Cypress, CA
http://www.siemens.com/plm
http://www.plmworld.org/museum/
To an Engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.
RE: NX run natively on Mac OS?
You can count me amongst the "pressure from the Mac using community will force a reevaluation of this situation in the not too distant future. " I will continue to push for the betterment of mankind. =)
I stand by my statement that running NX under X11/Motif will be a far inferior experience to running NX natively within Vista 64 on a Mac. I have run NX under both conditions and can tell you from personal experience. I also know you have run NX under both conditions but being a Siemens employee and self-described "Product Evangelist" you are not free to express your true findings. I knew you were a Mac user when I saw you copped Apple's "Evangelist" job description.
I have been an "End User" of UniGraphics since the McAuto days. You were selling it, I was using it! I worked 20 something years at McDonnell Douglas on Lakewood in Long Beach "C1" . NC programming in Building 2. Right next to McAuto. The first version I remember using was D4.0 this was prior to Unigraphics I. Around 1983.
I also spent plenty of time in Cypress. I worked on the side as a beta tester for EDS around the V15 - V17 time frame.
Anyway, I appreciate your open response and can appreciate the "Business Decision" explanation. I can only counter with this. When a company as large as Seimens makes a business decision to cut every corner/expense on this Mac OS port the outcome is very predictable. No one will use the product for the simple reasons I've expressed above. Then when everyone at Siemens involved in the decision making ($$) part of the port realizes what an utter failure the project was they will say, "See, it's a good thing we only spent the very minimum of money on the port because its clear Mac users really have no want or need for NX". Makes me want to puke. Hate to sound so cynical but I'm from the old school and I've heard it all so many times before.
As a fellow Mac User with your foot in the door at Siemens I sincerely hope you pass some of the feelings in this forum upwards at some of those long, boring, meetings you sit in at.
Yes, I see you on the right. At this same time I was in the building next door USING UniGraphics.
RE: NX run natively on Mac OS?
As for the decision to go with a 'Linux' style GUI, to the best of my knowledge, the primary customer for whom this port was originally done, signed-off on this approach well before the project was fully committed to or funded. And while I'm POSITIVE that they would have preferred a Mac style GUI, since they were planning to migrate from NX on UNIX workstations I suspect that they did not consider a 'Linux' style GUI to be a significant impediment to their successful use of the software, which they have now been running for some time using pre-production versions of Mac-based NX. What we plan on making available with the release of NX 6.0.3.x will be the first 'commercial release', but this does not mean that the software is not already being used in production. After all, if you read my latest 'status report', I did state clearly that this was NOT a beta-test, but rather an Early Adopters Program which will focus on validating the installation procedures and assuring the compatibility with NX running on Windows and Linux, hence the fact that this program is being limited to ONLY EXISTING customers who are already running NX on either Windows or Linux.
As for that picture, I'd have to use the way-back machine to get to where my hair was once again that dark
John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
Product Design Solutions
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
Cypress, CA
http://www.siemens.com/plm
http://www.plmworld.org/museum/
To an Engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.
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Bill
RE: NX run natively on Mac OS?
I was going through this and other UG/NX sites over the last few months or so when I was interviewing for a mechanical engineering position that would have entailed me switching to UG/NX for the first time. I have been using and managing various CAE tools since the early 90s with most of my background with PTC products starting with R14 of Pro/Engineer on various UNIX (sgi, sun, hp/ux) and Windows enviroment (nt, w2k, xp). I also have worked and supported various FEA tools, CFD models, PDM setups, technical writers (framemaker, latex, etc). Most were 10-20 users in commercial space, but one position supported design and system efforts for a very large university's engineering dept with over 3,000 students.
Anyway, after some debate I ended up not taking the UG/NX related position due to some other reasons, but some of your other related Mac OS X postings intriqued me and have routinely checked in to see the progress. I have been mac fan for years, but more so since os x was released. It seems that your initial approach of replacing current running UNIX installations is a very good one. You will be replacing the old systems with relatively inexpensive macs while retaining the value of UNIX not to mention the addition of general purpose mainstream software and much better GUI. However, to really promote the product you may want to consider university intallation where Apple is growing tremoudously and UG/NX is currently weak. A viewer in the spirit of eDrawings for iPhone could be a huge benefit also... I am already seeing a strong demand their.
RE: NX run natively on Mac OS?
im an German Consultant who is interested in UG on Mac. I still Using it on windows and a make the trainings on windows. i got a mac book and i would prefer to test it is it still out, is it possible to get a beta version.
does anybody know something?
Thx
RE: NX run natively on Mac OS?
John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
Product Design Solutions
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
Cypress, CA
http://www.siemens.com/plm
http://www.plmworld.org/museum/
To an Engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.
RE: NX run natively on Mac OS?
oh ok i have ask Siemens PLM in germany last Fall they told me if there is some customer test programm they will inform me, ok it is sad that they did not do but ok.
Ok then i have to wait until summer/fall
RE: NX run natively on Mac OS?
John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
Product Design Solutions
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
Cypress, CA
http://www.siemens.com/plm
http://www.plmworld.org/museum/
To an Engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.
RE: NX run natively on Mac OS?
RE: NX run natively on Mac OS?
i wrote them but i did not recive any answer. For me it is ok it is like allways *smile*.
RE: NX run natively on Mac OS?
John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
Product Design Solutions
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
Cypress, CA
http://www.siemens.com/plm
http://www.plmworld.org/museum/
To an Engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.