expiration of deviations with suppliers
expiration of deviations with suppliers
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I have spent my career (20 years) in off site Reasearch and Developmentand have taken a new position managing an engineering department in a small ("old school") sheetmetal manufactuer. My question is... if no date of expiration on a deviation with a customer - does it expire? I have been told that it is an industry standard that it will expire witht the next revision of that part.
These folks are trying to change their ways of doing business from agreements on the golf course to in writing. No more wink and nod kind of orders and changes to them. It has been bitting them in the butt for some time. I have worked in global companies that were either ISO standards or ASTM and SAE. Am trying to help them transition but can't find an answer to the problem.
Appreciate your advice.
These folks are trying to change their ways of doing business from agreements on the golf course to in writing. No more wink and nod kind of orders and changes to them. It has been bitting them in the butt for some time. I have worked in global companies that were either ISO standards or ASTM and SAE. Am trying to help them transition but can't find an answer to the problem.
Appreciate your advice.





RE: expiration of deviations with suppliers
In the ISO and S environments I worked in, all deviations had an explicit expiration, be it a date, production run, or upcoming revision. None were allowed to go indefinitely, i.e. the next revision had to be coming soon and ECN started almost immediately.
RE: expiration of deviations with suppliers
thanks again.
RE: expiration of deviations with suppliers
Do you control the prints or are they the customers? Is this what is muddying the waters.
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RE: expiration of deviations with suppliers
We once bought a product line from a competitor. Engineering was told we didn't have to do a thing, just make it like they made it. Receiving Inspection immediately started rejecting material from all their suppliers. Old open ended concessions & deviations started pouring out of the fax machine. We had to change nearly every drawing to document how the parts actually were made.