supplying water uphill
supplying water uphill
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how to supply water up a small hill from a pond NEAR the bottom, without the use of manpower, animal power, wind power, solar power, electricity or a heat engine?
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RE: supplying water uphill
Search for Hydraulic Ram, they're pretty old fashioned, very simple and some are still woring after 150 years!
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Don
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Better make that over 200 years!
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Is this a trick question? Are you going to tell us the answer?? Is this related to some real life application?
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The accentuation in the "pond NEAR the bottom" statement, suggests the solution is to create a siphon (per eromlignod's post).
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1. A stream can't be filling it unless the stream was flowing down the hill. Therefore dam the stream at the point higher up where you want the water.
or
2. If the steam is flowing down the hill then where is it coming from - perhaps there's already a rainwater pond at the top
or
3. Or is the water being piped under pressure part way up the hill to the pond?
My guess is also homework or we might have more information: height of hill, height of pond from the bottom, where is the water coming from, how much water is to be moved in what time? etc etc
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Any of these might be harnessed to run a pump.
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Put the ram pump in the stream feeding the pond. You will pump water from the stream, not really the pond.
Ted
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That depends entirely on what resources are available. If water is already running into and out of the pond due to some natural occurrence (like a spring or stream) at a rate that is sufficient to drive the ram and supply the required amount of water to the top of the hill then it is not "wasted". You are only considering water usage of the device and not the entire system. This is not good engineering.
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Consider a watermill driving a piston type pump.
Watermills were used I believe to water the Hanging Gardens of Babylon
Ross
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At a fishing camp we used for years there is a hydraulic ram that made and installed by my grandfather around 1900 and is still in use today. The only repair has been to replace a broken valve around 1940. It pumps water to a wooden tank about 250 ft above it.
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Alternatively wait for a giant meteor to hit the pond and splash some water up the hill.
Or exploit quantum mechanics. Cool the water to a low temperature. This means you know the velocity to some arbitrary accuracy. The Heisenberg Uncertainity principle then tells you what the probability of one of those water molecules actually being on top of the hill is, since the more accurately you know how fast it is going, the less accurately you know where it is.
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Greg Locock
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Provided that the inflow is sufficient to drive the hydraulic ram for sufficient time to pump water to the top.
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Corrosionman
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http://www.riferam.com/rams/deliver.htm
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You have a body of water (qty unspecified) part way up a hill.
You want to get some water (qty unspecified) part way up a hill.
A hydraulic Ram and appropriate piping/channels would appear to be up to the job as stated.
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Mike