Un-modelled items in BOM
Un-modelled items in BOM
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Is there a simple and effective way to add items to a BOM that are not in the supporting assembly model? Whenever I add new items to an assembly, the numbering of the manually added items gets thrown off.
In the past when I got an assembly drawing to the manufacturing level of detail, I would just import SolidWorks views into AutoCAD drawings. This time I want to keep everything in SolidWorks if possible, as changes are being made by the minute and we're refining what we want to include at the various assembly stages (vendor effort <-> internal effort).
Unfortunately, I haven't found a way to link a manually created BOM item to a balloon. Is there a way to do this that I'm missing?
I want the items in the BOM to follow the order in the assembly model, since I have multiple sheets and only one BOM on the drawing. To update item numbers in each view on other sheets, I create a new local BOM associated with that view and then delete it. Since changes are happening rapidly, I need this to be simple. That is why I'm controlling the order of BOM items through the model.
Are there ways to do what I need without doing a bunch of custom programming? I don't really have the time allocated to this project to cover much programming.
Thanks,
Tim
In the past when I got an assembly drawing to the manufacturing level of detail, I would just import SolidWorks views into AutoCAD drawings. This time I want to keep everything in SolidWorks if possible, as changes are being made by the minute and we're refining what we want to include at the various assembly stages (vendor effort <-> internal effort).
Unfortunately, I haven't found a way to link a manually created BOM item to a balloon. Is there a way to do this that I'm missing?
I want the items in the BOM to follow the order in the assembly model, since I have multiple sheets and only one BOM on the drawing. To update item numbers in each view on other sheets, I create a new local BOM associated with that view and then delete it. Since changes are happening rapidly, I need this to be simple. That is why I'm controlling the order of BOM items through the model.
Are there ways to do what I need without doing a bunch of custom programming? I don't really have the time allocated to this project to cover much programming.
Thanks,
Tim






RE: Un-modelled items in BOM
Now to you question. You could create a blank part with all the custom props filled in for the BOM. If you need to balloon to it you could start a sketch in the blank part and just drop a point into it. You now have something to balloon too.
If anybody from SW Corp is looking on, this should be at the top of your list for the next release! Give us something that we can modify that will not change! Any manual edits or unchecking of Items in the BOM properties does not stick!
BBJT CSWP
RE: Un-modelled items in BOM
1 Some Part
2 Some Other Part
...
B1 Bolt Type 1
B2 Bolt Type 2
It doesn't solve the issue at hand, but at least it's a workaround for this seemingly untouched SW issue.
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RE: Un-modelled items in BOM
RE: Un-modelled items in BOM
I personaly think it is time for SolidWorks to spend more time making the features that they offer work more reliable and less time making it look pretty. Don'get me wrong, I am amazed with every release that comes out but it would be really amazing to see existings bugs and limitations get fixed.
BBJT CSWP
RE: Un-modelled items in BOM
Are you saying that you enter in B1 at the end of BOM. Example :
1
2
3
4
B1
B2
What happens when you add another part to the assembly? Does it get added above the B1 or below the B2. Does the B1 and B2 even remain in the BOM?
BBJT CSWP
RE: Un-modelled items in BOM
1
2
3
4
B1
B2
What happens when you add another part to the assembly? Does it get added above the B1 or below the B2. Does the B1 and B2 even remain in the BOM?..."
I've done this and yes, the B1 and B2 remain in the assembly, but new items get added after it, so B1 and B2 must be relocated to the end of the BOM manually. The advantage to doing this is that your item balloons won't have to be re-"numbered" whenever new items are added to the assy.
RE: Un-modelled items in BOM
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BBJT CSWP
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RE: Un-modelled items in BOM
Andrew
RE: Un-modelled items in BOM
I JUST TRIED THIS
WHEN ADDING THE BOM DESELECT THE OPTION FOR ROW NUMBER FOLOW ASSEMBLY ORDER ON THE CONTROL TAB IN BOM PROPERTIES
SELECT YES ON RESERVE ROW NUMBERS FOR MISSING COMPONENTS DISPLAY WITH ZERO QUANTITY
THEM IN THE EXCEL SPREAD SHEET FORMAT THE ROWS TO TEXT
RIGHT CLICK AND SELECT
FORMAT CELLS
NUMBER TAB SELECT TEXT
I AM NOT SURE IF THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU HAD IN MIND BUT IT COULD BE A WORK AROUND
RE: Un-modelled items in BOM
1. Group new parts and the associated fasteners as a subassembly so it's easy to find the fasteners in the BOM. The fasteners could be dummy parts with only a point for insertion and the required properties for BOM. This will ensure that the BOM is correctly updated as to part count, but you may get a number of different lines for the same fastener, which complicates take-off. If you are methodical about the assignment of properties, the take-off person can work with the BOM in Excel to sort and collect like items. This method will simplify changes if you are removing parts and fasteners sometimes. This won't isolate the fasteners in one section of the BOM, however.
2. You could leave "BOM follows Assembly Ordering" on and organize your assembly in the feature manager: Keep established parts in their order at the top of the FM. Add new parts at the end of the main parts section. Put replacement parts in the same position as the originals(optional). Place fasteners at the bottom of the assembly. You could separate the parts from the fasteners with some blank parts to reserve numbers so you can (if you leave enough blanks) keep the fasteners section numbering constant without losing the automatic updating. You'll have to check at each revision to make sure you have deleted the same number of placeholder parts as you have added parts.
I haven't implemented all of this since we don't get that fussy about how our BOM's are organized, but I have tried some elements of it. Your mileage may vary....
RE: Un-modelled items in BOM
I have added a Number and Scaler custom property to our model templates. Now I have created a part called "oil-sae30" with multiple configuration. For each configuration the Number is the same. Its our part number of the oil. Now, for each configuration, the Scaler property represents the number of quarts of oil (the defauly value is 1).
Now, I have modified the BOM table in the following way. The Part_No and QTY fields have been hidden. I have added another field for Number, Scaler (which is hidden), and Quantity. Below the label Quantity I have entered "+QTY*Scaler", then I have copied this down 200 rows. Out longest BOM should only be around 150.
Now, when I drag part "oil-sae30.sldprt" into the model, I pick the configuration "3.5 Quarts", and then I add the BOM table. It now shows a quantity of 3.5 for the oil.
I've tested it about a dozen times so far and it seems to work every time.
Christopher Quijano