Place hole on external curved cylinder??
Place hole on external curved cylinder??
(OP)
I'd like to place a counterbored hole on the external surface of a cylinder. I'm trying to pick the curved surface as the placement surface and then select a datum plane for the angular location and then a planer surface for the locating dim. Seems UGNX5 will not let me pick the curved surface as a placement. Suggestions?
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Fighter Pilot
Manufacturing Engineer





RE: Place hole on external curved cylinder??
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RE: Place hole on external curved cylinder??
John R. Baker, P.E.
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NX Design
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
Cypress, CA
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RE: Place hole on external curved cylinder??
I then tried a General Hole, Normal to Face, Counterbore form and used my point to locate it. Entered in my values for the counterbore and selected a depth limit of Until Selected. I then selected the ID of the ring. Again, the hole blasted all the way thru the part. I went back and changed my depth limit to Value and entered in a depth of 1". This time the hole went in "visually" like I would like to see it. However, that is not my INTENT. My intent is to have the hole always go thru the ID, regardless of ID size. If I were to change the ID of my cylinder to the point where the wall is greater than 1" then my hole will not go thru w/o me going back and changing the depth.
Is my logic out of wack here by trying to apply some engineering intent or is UG not going to easily let me do what I would like to do? I'm finding this system very frustrating compared to V5 or Pro/Engineer. I guess I'm just not grasping the underlying methodology of how UG functions.
Patience appreciated.
Thanks....
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Fighter Pilot
Manufacturing Engineer
RE: Place hole on external curved cylinder??
Thanks for the heads up, John. Old habits are hard to break!
When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty. - Thomas Jefferson
RE: Place hole on external curved cylinder??
Yes, I know I can use an expression. The information I need to control the stopping surface is already in the model. Why can't I just tell it to stop there at all times w/o the expression? It's just more non-value added work for me.
If that's all it can do then I guess I'm stuck.
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Fighter Pilot
Manufacturing Engineer
RE: Place hole on external curved cylinder??
A bit off topic but I don't have another way to get a hold of you. What NX training classes, or path of classes, would you recommend for someone with nearly 15 years on Pro/E and 3 years on CATIA V5 who needs to make the switch to UGNX5?
Thanks...
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Fighter Pilot
Manufacturing Engineer
RE: Place hole on external curved cylinder??
As for your question about training, even with someone with your experience, I would take a class covering the basics of modeling and assemblies, and depending on whether you will be doing more complex free-form surfacing, perhaps something which included that as well.
for a complete list of instructor-led classes that is offered by Siemens PLM Software at our training centers, go to:
http://training.ugs.com/finder/ilt_list.shtml
Or you could pick from our self-paced CAST offerings.
John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
NX Design
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
Cypress, CA
http://www.siemens.com/plm
http://www.plmworld.org/museum/
To an Engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.
RE: Place hole on external curved cylinder??
Yesterday I was walking past our classrooms here in Cypress, CA, and when I do that I generally stop and check the names of the classes being taught and the list of companies who have students in class. It turns out that they were teaching a class that I was not aware of titled 'NX Design for the Experienced CAD User'. This sounds exactly like the type of class that you should be looking into attending.
John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
NX Design
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
Cypress, CA
http://www.siemens.com/plm
http://www.plmworld.org/museum/
To an Engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.
RE: Place hole on external curved cylinder??
Cheers
Hudson
RE: Place hole on external curved cylinder??
Yes, I'd see the NX for Exp Users class and thought that may be beneficial. It looks like the majority of the classes are in NX6. We won't be moving to NX6 anytime soon and may skip it all together. If I take it in NX6 how much would transfer down to NX5?
Thanks...
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Fighter Pilot
Manufacturing Engineer
RE: Place hole on external curved cylinder??
John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
NX Design
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
Cypress, CA
http://www.siemens.com/plm
http://www.plmworld.org/museum/
To an Engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.
RE: Place hole on external curved cylinder??
However, it does leave off at a Very basic introductory level, and I have not found any training that goes into the depth that I wanted (including the so-called 'advanced' classes). Having many years expierience with a system like proe, you learn millions of little tricks, tips, techniques, and methods to get things done. Many of which are a bastardization of the system, undocumented, based on bugs, specific to your workflow, and so on. I finally conceded that only time will teach me what I want to know about NX, and it will probably be about two years before I'm as comfortable as I want to be.
I'm over ten months into it now, and still learning rapidly, but I'm pretty comfortable and productive. The two year goal still seems reasonable.
NX 5.0.3.2 MoldWizard
RE: Place hole on external curved cylinder??
There's really no substitute for steady usage.