Where has Engineering Gone In The Last 5 Years
Where has Engineering Gone In The Last 5 Years
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Just noticed FAQ730-700: So, where IS it going? and that it is (just over) 5 years old.
So to celebrate this milestone, anyone care to opine on where it has gone? How accurate were some of the initial ideas etc.
So to celebrate this milestone, anyone care to opine on where it has gone? How accurate were some of the initial ideas etc.
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cad and solid modeling and fea have improved and become more common, but they are hardly the cornerstone of the industry that people thought they would be. It still seems to be up to engineers to create solutions, and isn't that what we have always done?
Luck is a difficult thing to verify and therefore should be tested often. - Me
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Yes, we're engineering products that will be manufactured in SE Asia, South Africa and China. That really took off about 3 years ago.
"Engineering in 5 years time will tend to evolve into a more "mainstream" professional position. "
Nope
" Gone are the days of "Engineers, Doctors, and Lawyers" representing the "top of the totem pole" of professions. "
Wasn't true in the past , doubt it will happen.
"(Many) Engineers in the future will likely be more diverse, more generalized, and subsequently less paid. Some contributing factors of this situation have been the lack of public understanding of the "engineering profession", lack of a protective professional organization, and the deemphasis of the value of Professional Certification."
Want cheese with that?
"Industrial Exemption opens the field of engineering up to a great many more (capable!) persons, but at the same time stretches the encompassing boundaries of what is considered "engineering". We all tend to agree there is a big difference between our "engineering" jobs and the local Sanitation "Engineer" who muscles trashbags for a living."
Yes we all agree. Is anyone seriously confused by this nomenclature?
"The challenges all of us face in Engineering during the next 5 years will be:
1. Continue to press (and utilize) communications technology. The advent of the Internet has supplemented our professional lives in an absurd fashion, as proven by this website, http://www.eng-tips.com"
Couldn't do my job (as in designing stuff for the other side of the world) without it. Why is this absurd?
"5. Encourage young people to become engineers. The world is often far short of good analytical thinkers with common sense. The "best and brightest" have been identifed as moving outside the field of engineering, so the burden is for us to actively recruit. "
Why would I recruit competition? Why not let the free market sort it out?
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There are a lot of engineers today that are not very artistic and can not visualize a design by themselves. They need to work in groups to help each other work out a concept.
This is not everywhere, but is growing. Managers know this and are slowly replacing older employees with interns because students generally learn to work together in groups.
I think engineering will always be needed, but will become more diverse than anything else.
Similar to the economy, engineering jobs come and go. Our next generation of engineering students will see the benefits of the next generation of space travel and new technologies.
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but then isn't always the way ?
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Nope. Not if the non-metric posts on this site are anything to go by.
- Steve
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I think there is a chance it might, but not until the generations X and Y are retired.
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As far as the metric system becoming world-wide... I have known a number of high school physics students that think I am nuts when I tell them I much prefer the english system to the metric system. However, when they argue with how much simplier the metric system is than english, I ask them "If there's something on a shelf 3 meters high, do you need a stool to reach it?" I haven't found one (high school student remember) that could answer without stopping to think about it. So I think the "metric movement" is still alive, but I haven't seen any major steps taken (ie posting speed limits in USA in km/hr) and doubt they will anytime soon.
In working with engineers with more experienced engineers, they do seem to have a wider range of knowledge. This could be simply due to their experience, but I suspect part of the issue is with more specialization. As the tools of design (including software, electric components, mechanical mechanisms, and everything) become more advanced, I get the impression that individual knowledge is being narrowed toward a specific industry or position. I think it is becoming more likely that a person could make a career doing stress analysis of structures (by hand or FEA) and not be able to size a hydraulic pump.
Just my impressions... MechEng2005
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I somewhat disagree. If you are a generalist you have zero value in the eyes of the decision makers because someone in India or China with more education than you have is willing to do your job for $6000/year. In this global economy where cost is king, engineers need to bring more to the table (at least in U.S. and other high paying countries) if they expect to be employed.
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Sorry, an old one courtesy of checkerron
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What's happened in the past five years? Locally in Canada it seems that was old has become new again. We've had an oil and resource boom. People are starting to retire from positions that have not been available to fresh grads for nearly a generation- but that's just starting. Energy efficiency and alternative fuels research shelved since the 1980s has seen a resurgence. Manufacturing has trickled away to places with lower labour costs. And Canadian engineering immigration rates have finally sagged from their absurd 2001-2003 peak, such that only about half as many engineers immigrate to Canada as we graduate locally every year. That's still FOUR TIMES the rate it was in 1991, but it's an improvement.
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http://www.metric4us.com/
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Luck is a difficult thing to verify and therefore should be tested often. - Me
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Our speed limits are all based on mph, a unit that shouldn't be recognised. Similarly all road distances use miles/yards/feet. On the other hand, petrol is sold in litres.
We have a long way to go.
- Steve
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Luck is a difficult thing to verify and therefore should be tested often. - Me
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The 4th of July. i.e. 4/7
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The gov't/military: http://www.olive-drab.com/od_time_24hr.php
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But my biggest gripe is with European beer manufacturers. In Australia, we drink beer out of 375 ml "stubbies", but the Germans, Czechs, etc persist in sending their stuff to us in 333 ml bottles.
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Or is your gripe really about missing out on 45 ml?
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Centimetres ARE metric, just not SI. Similarly millimetres, which are ubiquitous in engineering.
- Steve
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To me, if it is not in multiples of 10^3, it is not metric. Thus millimetres, metres, kilometres are the only length units we need. Why do I need to know my waist is 97 cm when 970 (without mm) is self explanatory?
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"cl" is a common unit of volume in mainland Europe.
- Steve
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I'll be round your house tonight whipping your asses. And if you haven't got a donkey...
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Pop: 330ml
Ordinary beer: 440ml
Tramp juice: 500ml
Wife beater: 568ml
Bud: Some odd size, can't remember exactly, 457ml(?)
- Steve
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Cheers
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Even when drinking a "Guinness Extra Cold", which is only done in a place that doesn't look like it knows how to store its beer, I never had a problem with the bottom getting warm. (The one litre Kronenburg in France almost got warm one time, then I corrected that problem by picking up the pace, with inevitable consequences.)
Of course, drink a nice cask ale or similar and you don't need to worry as much about it getting warm.
hokie, if you're going to get hung up on it would you rather beer was sold by the cubic meter? Maybe you'd enjoy a nice .000375m^3 bottle of fizzy cold gnats pi$$.
Sompting, might be that the Bud is in a matric 16floz bottle, which to colonials would be a pint.
As I recall per ASME Y14.100 date should be Year Month Day, I still have to think about dates in regular US format having grown up in the UK.
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I would like them all to be the same units.
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Hg
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And stranglely the hardware stores sell 3/4" drill bits.
If we were to change to the metric system would we have to change some of the way we speek.
Walk a kilometer in my shoes, or such?
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KENAT, I am not "hung up" on the way beer volume is measured. Millilitres meets my specification exactly. But so does a cubic metre, or megalitre.
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Anyway, t'was a but a light hearted jest.
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I've been worrying this around in my head and I can't see where you get it that Hokie66 is missing 45ml,
I make it 625ml he's missing from his stubbie.
Or am I missing something? Is he? Perhaps Sompting guy has it in his can.... er lets see. How many of somptings cans do we
Oh well.
Quite. It really messed up the money here. I'm all for going back to £.s.d (and Guineas).
No joking, every time they mess with the money we end up paying more for it. When was the last time anyone saw a 1/2p? I think they lasted about 2days before the manufacturers "rounded up" the prices.
Then they introduced the Euro. Same deal in all those countries where they had Marks and Lira etc.
Of course, now we have (for whatever reasons, biofuel production, drought or oil rpices) higher food prices so the manufacturers have provided the same size packaging and at the same price but with less contents.
Thing is, all those funny sizes are all part of what Scot Adams calls a "confusopoly".
Hmm, think I could do with a swift 330ml.
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No, apsix knows my drinking habits. An Aussie stubby is 375 ml, and a typical European one is 330 ml. I was griping about missing out on 45 ml, but if you want to contribute another 625 ml, I'll drink that too. In fact, as it is 1515 on Saturday 4 October 2008 where I am, it is time to crack one.
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Luck is a difficult thing to verify and therefore should be tested often. - Me
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Seems dumb to me to use alcohol as a car fuel, when it fuels humans so well.
Although these people who say they will work for food really won't, it's a thought that they might work for ripple.
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For instance, maybe they can give you a 10% price reduction or give you 25% extra free, which sounds better?
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My experience in countries that really use the metric system to the exclusion of all others (as opposed to countries where the official system is metric but most people still think in imperial units) is that the centimeter is a very useful unit. Most thingummies between about the size of my thumb and maybe twice my height (i.e., those which in the "U.S. customary" system would be described using inches) are described in either centimeters, or meters and centimeters. Height, for instance. Someone's height might typically be described as a meter eighty. Or depth of swimming pool--go look and see what's painted on the side. It's either meters to TWO decimal points, or it's centimeters. Look at almost every metric ruler--centimeters. It's a standard unit, it's very popular, and it's very useful.
Centimeters even come up in an engineering context--although all the drawings are done exclusively in millimeters, when we're talking about the size of X-ray film we switch to centimeters because we're having a real-world conversation about a real-world object whose size is appropriately expressed in centimeters; millimeters offer too much precision for the context of the conversation.
The use of a system in formal contexts on paper is very different from its use in real life and conversation. For people who don't think in metric units, the "purity" or perhaps simplicity of only meters and millimeters in caluculations may appeal, but if you use the system in daily life, there is a real need for a unit of measure about the size of something that can be held in the hand and easily seen. Apparently there's only the need for one such, and not two, as the decimeter has pretty much died. But the centimeter is alive and well.
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I got introduced to widespread us of mm in Design Technology A level, kind of a highschool intro to Engineering.
However in maths and physics at that point it was all about metres with the appropriate exponent.
At university it was mainly meters with the appropriate exponent. We had one US prof who used US books and the concept of a 'slug' caused some concern!
Then I get to work and it's all millimeters & inches.
Fortunately I'd learnt inches at home so to me they were just lines on a ruler, however to apprentices just a couple of years younger than I inches were a major stumbling block.
Now I'm in the US, where it's mostly inches.
Anyway, while not my favourite there is a place for centimeters as HG points out.
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Even if the US truely went metric there are so many pieces of equipment with 'inch' scales, components etc that they'll be around a good while.
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HgTX, that's obviously based on your personal experience but is not a universal rule.
I you are taught metres and millimetres it feels perfectly natural to use only those units.
Where I am, all design, construction, materials etc. are in m or mm.
Dressmakers find cm useful I believe.
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Fortunately, most Canadian engineers are relatively "bilingual" in units terms. US customary units due to proximity to our neighbour, and SI/metric units in our official standards and our educational system.
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Sort of the same reason there are 60 minuites in an hour. Or in metric should that be 100 minuites in an hour, and 20 hours in a day?
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School was a pain because the instructors would use both. Sometimes mixing them up on a test (in the same problem!)just to see if we were paying attention.
I had used inches for so long that when I started working in mm I modeled everything in mm but dimensioned it in inches. My supervisors got a good laugh outta that.
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A: Easy, trying telling a woman her waist is no longer "97" it is "nine hundred and seventy."
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I don't understand .... that's ok - you don't have to explain.
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Just when you think degrees centigrade is a nice useful scale and easily converted to degrees Kelvin and more convenient than Fahrenheit and Rankin, for some reason the name changes to Celcius.
OK, fine, so its all now Celcius and Kelvin except it isn't.
I'm just going over my spreadsheet for density calculations and I now have to try and fathom out the significance of the various changes in temperature scales over the last 100 years.
The most recent change, so far as I can see, is from ITS 68 to ITS 90.
The differences between tO68 and tO90 are, apparently, either significant or not significant depending on what you are doing at the time. I'm now trying to fathom out if TO68 is any different to TO90 and I hope this site (http://www
Is that the end of it? I doubt it.
Once you have committees deciding to standardise something you can be sure that when the committee meets again in 2,5 or 10 years they'll have thought of something new to do even if it is simply change the name from Centigrade to Celcius, to replace Curies with Roentgens or whatever, to redefine the standard or something else altogether. I guess it might make sense to you and me to have one big meeting and get all the changes done at once and then shoot them all so they can't come back in five years with more changes, but I guess that ain't gonna happen.
Of course, we can hardly expect any committee to meet and say "Yep, we got it right the last time" because they'd all have nothing more to do and hence an end to that particular "nice little earner"; most committees are thus, by some immutable law, eternal.
I say most, and perhaps that ought to read "all, because until I started messing with the density calculations it would never have occurred to me to think that 23OC measured in 1926 would by the end of 1927 be some very slightly different temperature or that come 1948, 1968 and 1990 it would have changed again and again.
Of course, this gives me something else to worry about: I now wonder if Michael Mann is correcting all his temperature data to the ITS 90 scale and if his source materials are all in, or converted to, the same temperature scale? Do you think I should ask him, or is he having enough troubles with trying to get the hockey stick graph back on the map?
Is nothing sacrosanct?
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When I was in college, I was just learning about quarks but in high school, the basic parts were the proton, neutron, and electron. And I am hearing now, watching public telelvesion programs, that there are even smaller parts to the quarks. Just an example.
I think the speed and ease in which we communicate accelerates the formulation of new concepts.
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A theory is just something someone proposed as a way of explaining how things work. However a brick wall is a fact that you can run into.
As we collectivitly learn more, new theorys will appear and old ones will be forgoton (Like the earth is flat).
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Yeah I know, our knowledge is always advancing but I mean, how can the earth eb anything but flat? I mean, what's your definition? I know its a poser to consider a finite unbounded isotropic surface but who says it has to be unbounded?
You know some of you are very dangerous thinkers. Not content with 2 dimensions you want us to believe we live in three spacial dimensions. Where will it end? eleven dimensions and are they all finite unbounded isotropic homogenuous spaces? or what?
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The evidence is presented here by the International Square Earth Society:
http://home.netcom.com/~rogermw/square_earth.html
Of course, there is a Round Earth Society too, (but there are always cranks):
http://roundearth.informe.com/
There is even a hollow earth society... are there no end of these people?
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From my office window I see the same cars go by all day long. From my calculation the time period of circulation is about 3 hours on averige, with some faster, and some slower.
But what I don't know is why they keep going around.
The issue here is not what we believe, but does the theory explain what is actually happening. A postulation is a belief that what may be a theory is correct, but you haven't tested it agenest all reasonable situations.
I postulate the sun travels around the earth, because that is what appears to happen from my perspective.
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It must be hot where you are.
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One or two seem purely honey traps to draw the loonies out of the bushes and into their blogs.
Some people seem to have nothing to do all day but drive their blood pressure through the roof and spout of senselessly in any forums they can find. Maybe they just like to see themselves in print.
Oh, oops.
Er, let me go get a coffee and think about that for a moment.
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If a book said so, must it always be true?
Read the theorys, see the perspectives, and decide for your self.
Engineering has changed in the point of view that manufactured goods are reduced in metals. More consumer goods are now made of plastic. And cars are just now reaching the milage that they were at 15 years ago (nothing changed there).
With more efficent light bulbs, electric usages are up. And the price of oil has risen form $40 to $60 a barrel.
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"So how do you know the shape of the earth?"
Moon landings and satellite photos.
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I just thought they were big so you can throw bigger things (shells, buck shot, Napom).
Another improvment is computers, and computerized equipment operates faster (What ever happened to FORTRAN).
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The big guns were also for more range, but I'm not sure that directly results.
Curvature of the earth is the reason that battleships and the like had their fire directors up on the masts, and look outs even higher.
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http://www.ardtech.co.uk/page20.html
I worked on Tomahawks, they also take in account of the curvature of the Earth.
Off subject anyway. ;)
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Battleship directors were up high to keep them out of the smoke and spray.
Satellite photos are faked.
I am surprised I have to explain these things.
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I'm not sure I see your point.
Greg, thanks for correction my illusion.
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(Curiously, the apparently/allegedly rather more accurate source maps were based on spherical earth models which suggests that round earth fanatics had been at work well prior to 1542 and suggests that this "round earth" theory is more ancient than previously thought and is not just a consequence of the internet enabling all sorts of cranks to wriet up their crazy beliefs on Wiki as if they were factual.)
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3 Oct 08 18:55
All I was saying was that multiples of 10 and 100 only complicate the metric system, when it doesn't need to be complicated. Who would remember those prefixes in HgTX's link?"
Do multiples of 10 and 100 really complicate the system? I doubt it. Come on how hard is it to deal with multiples of 10; 10^1, 10^2 etc. I think that I would be better to question invalid use of units such as kg/m^2 for pressure where dimensional analysis fails.
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Firstly, welcome, as I see this is your first post. It has been a while since I looked at this thread, so just found your comment about my argument. But I will continue to maintain the view that 10^0, !0^3, !0^6, etc are sufficient divisions, at least for my type of engineering work.
I agree with you that kg/m^2 is inappropriate. The standard pressure units for structural engineering work should be kPa and MPa.
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I still have this problem in Europe where the Belgiums, for example, wouldn't accept my old Belgium francs even before they joined the Euro.
As i return from overseas trips my wife raids my pockets and sequesters my foreign currency "for the next time" except that the next time usually means we are in a foreign country and the money is still at home wherever she put it and 30minutes frantic searching before leaving for the airport can't discover it. When discovered, it is obsolete.
Actually, you should attempt to spend your Scottish notes south of the border. There is nothing that is a much fun as seeing some halfwitted checkout person frantically dinging the bell and calling for the Supervisor. AT one time this used also to be a problem with any large denomination UK banknote as well, starting with the £5 note and working up. The higher the denomination, the more stressed the COP.
What I do get annoyed with is when I present a brand new note fresh from the bank and, in front of a long queue of customers, the COP (Check-out Person) holds it up to the light as if it is a forgery and I am on the most wanted list.
JMW
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My normal response to the cashier who holds a banknote up to the light is to do exactly the same with any notes I receive in change. I suppose you could also bite down on any coins for additional effect.
Andybr
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- Steve
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I usually make the "it better be good I just got if from the bank (or whereever) joke". Of course so did people handing out the fakes...
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Strange as each bill has the phrase "leagal tender for all debt public and privite". It seems there is a group that wants to discurage the use of money (Except the plastic type).
It may seem like a little irritating but I would prefer to keep the data collectors out of my life (Funny because the US goverment is reportly the biggest user of this data collection). just get so tired of targeted ads for bad copies of good products.
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Although I hate when someone pays me back with a $100 bill. I would prefer 5 x $20 bills.
Kyle Chandler
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It would make for a good court case.
- Steve
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I have one left from many years ago and now realise that if anyone ever does accept it this novelty will be lost to me.
Perhaps we should encourage a campaign of demand $2 dollar bills from banks and get them back into circulation.
I guess we will need a PR campaign to modify that well known phrase "As phoney as a two dollar bill" to read "as phoney as a three dollar bill".
PS anyone got a complete set of quarters with all the state symbols? (as fast as I collect them, rules being to collect in change wherever I am in the States) my wife empties them out of my pockets and spends them.
JMW
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I have the advantage of a mixed heritage and dual nationality (and am considered handicapped by some in the family who are are multinational - my wife has three or four passports, when she can remember to renew them and my sisters nephews and nieces have three apiece).
It comes in handy when stopped for speeding to be able to adopt an accent and show a foreign identity (i.e. non-European).
Well, almost. My Nephew was stopped in Scotland for (he says) no good reason at all.
He has a full California license and a British provisional license. he was driving alone.
They booked him for driving unaccompanied and without a valid licence; one assumes if he had not the provisional license he would have gotten away with it.
He now has a full British Driving license.
JMW
www.ViscoAnalyser.com
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On the other hand, some older people think the $2 bills are bad luck.
In some smaller towns some companies will at some odd interval pay there workers with $2 bills just to show the community how much they impact the community.
But to really make shop keepers upset, pay with Sizie B's.