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SW 2009 SP 0 is out
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SW 2009 SP 0 is out

RE: SW 2009 SP 0 is out

$%!#$@!#$&

I was hoping for another couple of days, if not weeks, to plan my implementation timeline.  

Joe Hasik, CSWP/SMTL
SW 08 x64, SP 4.0
SW 09 x64, BETA 1
Dell T3400
Intel Core2 Quad
Q6700 2.66 GHz
3.93 GB RAM
NVIDIA Quadro FX 4600

RE: SW 2009 SP 0 is out

Wow--apart from the Barcelona gig, most other roll-outs for v2009 aren't for another month from now.

Interesting.  Thanks, Scott!  And if anyone installs and uses SP0.0, I'd like to hear what you think and if you find any snags.

 

Jeff Mowry
www.industrialdesignhaus.com
A people who value security over freedom will soon find they have neither.

RE: SW 2009 SP 0 is out

Snags?  Come on, Theo.  She'll be running perfectly out of the gate...

Dan

www.eltronresearch.com

RE: SW 2009 SP 0 is out

I'll let you know tomorrow, the install is DL'ing at the office right now.

Joe Hasik, CSWP/SMTL
SW 08 x64, SP 4.0
SW 09 x64, BETA 1
Dell T3400
Intel Core2 Quad
Q6700 2.66 GHz
3.93 GB RAM
NVIDIA Quadro FX 4600

RE: SW 2009 SP 0 is out

My install was a nightmare for some reason, but so far SW 09 is everything I've expected from the beta and PR's. Good to see Photoview in full release too.  

Joe Hasik, CSWP/SMTL
SW 08 x64, SP 4.0
SW 09 x64, BETA 1
Dell T3400
Intel Core2 Quad
Q6700 2.66 GHz
3.93 GB RAM
NVIDIA Quadro FX 4600

RE: SW 2009 SP 0 is out

is anyone having trouble downloading anything in the downloads section? I try and it says contacting D/L site, and sits for a while, then IE cannot display page. like its timing out or something. its been like this for a couple of days now.

RE: SW 2009 SP 0 is out

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(OP)
The download was spitting up an message about how the Activation site was under maintainence, but clicking OK fixed the issue... I had to click it like 3 times, both when it said it was and of course it would return saying it was fixed.

The connecting to the website was slow, but that could be due to the amount of traffic people that are downloading and installing the software last night and today.

Its going good so far outside of that message.

Scott Baugh, CSWP pc2
www.scottjbaugh.com

Quote:

"If it's not broke, Don't fix it!"
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RE: SW 2009 SP 0 is out

Mine said that the site was under maintainence last night, but continued downloading behind the error message. When I got in this morning I clicked through two error messages and was done.

Joe Hasik, CSWP/SMTL
SW 08 x64, SP 4.0
SW 09 x64, BETA 1
Dell T3400
Intel Core2 Quad
Q6700 2.66 GHz
3.93 GB RAM
NVIDIA Quadro FX 4600

RE: SW 2009 SP 0 is out

Typically we do not install a new version until SP1.0.  We might go ahead and install SP0 this time.  Anybody on the pre-release found any bugs that would make you not recommend SP0 or do you recommend to go ahead and install it?

Flores

RE: SW 2009 SP 0 is out

I actually found '09 PR's more stable than SP4.0 of 08. I'm taking the time to get some new and more in depth defaults set up before we make the move to '09, that's the only reason I'm waiting until SP 1.0 to upgrade my people. Get everything done in one fell swoop.  

Joe Hasik, CSWP/SMTL
SW 08 x64, SP 4.0
SW 09 x64, SP 0.0
Dell T3400
Intel Core2 Quad
Q6700 2.66 GHz
3.93 GB RAM
NVIDIA Quadro FX 4600

RE: SW 2009 SP 0 is out

Quote (fcsuper):

I didn't need any signicant new bugs in 09

If you're looking for a few bugs Matt I can have my in house API programmer write you a quick macro that pops up random, meaningless error messages, just so it feels more like some of the older SW product.

Joe Hasik, CSWP/SMTL
SW 08 x64, SP 4.0
SW 09 x64, SP 0.0
Dell T3400
Intel Core2 Quad
Q6700 2.66 GHz
3.93 GB RAM
NVIDIA Quadro FX 4600

RE: SW 2009 SP 0 is out

Is there any difference feature-wise between the photoview360 beta and this release?

I really only use 09 for photoworks and photoview360 at the moment.

 

RE: SW 2009 SP 0 is out

Do I need to get a new license for 09?  I am currently running 09 PR2, and am using a SNL_ANY licence file.

RE: SW 2009 SP 0 is out

Joe,

Thanks for the help.  That was an editing error, I think.  need = find.

However, thanks for the idea.  I might create such macros and add-ins for the pranksters out there and make them available on my site.  This might be a whole new area!

I did something like this as a joke for ACAD 13 back in the 90's.   I created a small .exe to replace the main acad.exe, so when the user would run ACAD, a fake menu screeen popped up.  When someone selected an option, it would snipe back with an insult or refusal to do the task.

Matt Lorono
CAD Engineer/ECN Analyst
Silicon Valley, CA
Lorono's SolidWorks Resources
Co-moderator of Solidworks Yahoo! Group
and Mechnical.Engineering Yahoo! Group

RE: SW 2009 SP 0 is out

So far it sounds as though v2009 is delivering on the promise of a more stable, functional product "to make us more productive".  Nifty.  I'll keep an eye on things here and see if anything show-stopping happens...

 

Jeff Mowry
www.industrialdesignhaus.com
A people who value security over freedom will soon find they have neither.

RE: SW 2009 SP 0 is out

My understanding (based on the SW08 release/fiasco) is that the Gold Partner products have about 60 days to get thier software released for the new version after the release of SP0. True or not, I'll wait until my Add-In comes out with the 09 version.

I looked at the SW site to double check my video card and driver for 09 and it's not listed as having been tested. That's another reason for me to wait. In the past the nVidea driver was not the same as the Dell driver.

I'm anxious to play with the new toys, just not in a rush for new problems.

Harold
SW2008 SP4.0 OPW2008 SP1 Win XP Pro 2002 SP3
Dell 690, Xeon 5160 @3.00GHz, 3.25GB RAM
nVidia Quadro FX4600
www.lumenflow.com

RE: SW 2009 SP 0 is out

2009 runs fine with no crashes so far on my work pc. Running a separate install on some test assemblies.

Disappointed in a few things.

Laughed at the claiming of support for dual monitors when of the left hand feature/property/config manager that takes up large real estate on the left side, you can now undock the property manager. Unfortunately the feature/config manager cannot be undocked so there is no gain to real estate for the model window.

Dimexpert is still totally useless for something as simple a machined shaft. Some dimensions ONLY appear in top annotation view, unfortunately in top view the geometric function boxes appear at 90 degrees to the dimension text, and custom text position, to make leader text horiz or vertical is non functioning in top view.

Stability is nice. The magnifying glass is nice.  

RE: SW 2009 SP 0 is out

I went to the Assembly Expo in Chicago yesterday and since I haven't spent a great deal of time looking at 09, I stopped at the SW booth to check it out. They were displaying SW08. The sales guys said that I could see it at the roll out in a "couple weeks". I guess my point is that it seems kind of dumb to send your sales team out without giving them your best/newest product to demo when it's available for download now. I felt kind of bad for them....

I know the region isn't in great shape as far the economy (how's that for understatement?) but the SW booth a few years ago was at least four times the size with Add-In parteners displayed as well. That was where I first saw OptisWorks. This year it was about the size of three cubicles. Bummer.

Harold
SW2008 SP4.0 OPW2008 SP1 Win XP Pro 2002 SP3
Dell 690, Xeon 5160 @3.00GHz, 3.25GB RAM
nVidia Quadro FX4600
www.lumenflow.com

RE: SW 2009 SP 0 is out

Well we jumped in with both feet without testing 2009 because admin updated all seats Friday after we left.  Can't wait to try it out and hope it isn't all eye-candy and fluff.

Flores

RE: SW 2009 SP 0 is out

I downloaded 2009 Sp0 and used it over the past four days. I used it to model a canopy for a boat. The model comprised about a dozen parts and several assemblies.

The number of crashes seems the same as with 2008 or greater. It has probably crashed about ten times over this period.

There were issues in trying to set the colours of the various parts and have these appearance settings appear in the various assemblies. I'm a mechanical engineer working on heavy industrial plant for mine sites. The colouring doesn't need to be too fancy. My approach is to set the various colours and textures in the parts and have these appear in the various sub-assemblies and assemblies that the parts appear in.

Tryng to apply colours to the various parts and assemblies seems to be hit and miss. I found the help given regarding selected gometry in the property manager is confusing. Under 'selected geometry', what is 'componenet level' and a 'part document'. Apparently these have different meanings in an assembly and a part. I get different things happening at different levels of the part in an assembly for the same operation. Sometimes the triangle that appears in the display pane under 'appearance' is on top, indicating the colour was applied to the assembly, and sometimes it appears on the bottom, indicating it was applied to the part and sometimes the change to the setting unexpectedly clears the colour from the part or assembly.

That leads me to the first major problem. If I cleared the overiding appearance settings for an assembly, ie. the settings for the assembly listed at the top of the feature tree, then I was unable to save the file. A message appeared on the screen saying that the file could not be saved. Our VAR is looking into the problem. Coupled with that in another copy of this assembly part I am unable to clear the colour setting in the assembly.

The other mjor problem involved mirroring a part in an assembly. To do this you're supposed to work through three steps in the property manager. I could only get to the second step. The third step was greyed out. To get this to work I had to back track to the first step and then click the green arrow.

Machine specifications:

Hewlett Packard XW4600, 64 bit, Windows XP, 8GB ram, Nvidia Quadro FX 1700.

 
 

RE: SW 2009 SP 0 is out

Will SW2009 work on Vista Home Premium x64?

RE: SW 2009 SP 0 is out

dogarilla,

Yes.  I am running it that way, both SWX2008-SP4.0 and SWX2009-SP0.0

- - -Updraft

RE: SW 2009 SP 0 is out

I've also had problems with Photoview 360 which is the rendering add-in that is part of SW Premium.

I opened up an assembly comprising several parts and a message appears on the dialogue box that says 'Drawing problem dangerous lack of resources.' The program would then typically crash. This happened a number of times.

I listed my specifications above which are as good. I am also using an Intel E6850 Core 2 Duo processor. I managed to get a simple part to open without the program crashing.

I would be interested to hear other feedback on this software.  

RE: SW 2009 SP 0 is out

PhotoView 360 is in Pre-Release. I have some issues opening models and crashing on my Vista machine.  SW Tech Support tells me it is a known issue and a fix is in place in a future SP of PhotoView 360.

I have had better luck opening models by RMB the file in Windows Explorer, then selecting Open With.

I love the package, it works well for my needs.  It still has rough edges that I suspect will be addressed in the future.

I have a blog post about PhotoView 360 and also some renders posted at http://designsmarter.typepad.com/solidmuse

Cheers,

Anna Wood
SW2008 SP4.0, Windows Vista SP1
IBM ThinkPad T61p, T7800, FX570M, 4 gigs of RAM
http://designsmarter.typepad.com/solidmuse
http://www.phxswug.com

RE: SW 2009 SP 0 is out

I contacted my Add-In support to ask if/when the Add-In will be compatible with SW09. After a few emails and a follow up call I have some clarification on when the gold partner products are due for for their 09 release. The clock starts ticking for them January 1 of the new year release SolidWorks XX and they have until April 1 to get their software released. I had thought that it started when SP0 was available regardless of the date. There's a good chance that SW will be on SP1.0 by the time I install.

Harold
SW2008 SP4.0 OPW2008 SP1 Win XP Pro 2002 SP3
Dell 690, Xeon 5160 @3.00GHz, 3.25GB RAM
nVidia Quadro FX4600
www.lumenflow.com

RE: SW 2009 SP 0 is out

(OP)
When using photo view you have to convert your files over to SW09 first. If you can't convert them then PV360 will not work. This is in response to "Decca".

Regards,

Scott Baugh, CSWP pc2
www.scottjbaugh.com

Quote:

"If it's not broke, Don't fix it!"
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RE: SW 2009 SP 0 is out

The files were created in SW 2009.

I did have more success using the rendering add-in in SolidWorks. I have SW premium.

I'd prefer it if they didn't send out half baked software. Users are feeling jaded about the problems with colouring and textures so to put out this package in its present form is another slap in the face.

Had another five crashes using 2009 today. In one case it occured twice when I opened a single simple part. Tried to Rx the issue but then it stopped crashing. It was also unstable when using routing and doing simulations.

I did have a chance to use the speed pak briefly and in concept at least it seems a good think and should make bigger models more managable.

RE: SW 2009 SP 0 is out

Has anyone tested SW2009 with PDMWorks Workgroup? Is there a new server software version?

Colin Fitzpatrick (aka Macduff)
Mechanical Designer
Solidworks 2008 SP 4.0
Dell 490 XP Pro SP 2
Xeon CPU 3.00 GHz 3.00 GB of RAM
nVida Quadro FX 3450 512 MB
3D Connexion-SpaceExplorer

RE: SW 2009 SP 0 is out

(OP)
Well something that most don't consider when going to SW09 is that it is new and usually your Video card drivers change per the next major release. SW has got those released but they are still the latest driver we are using. There maybe better ones out there SW has not tested yet.

From what I have been told if you read the License agreement it does state to not use the Sp0 for production type work.

I have used SW09 and for the most part its very stable... some people will have problems than others... I guess this is your year, until you get better drivers or maybe a new install.

Regards,

Scott Baugh, CSWP pc2
www.scottjbaugh.com

Quote:

"If it's not broke, Don't fix it!"
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RE: SW 2009 SP 0 is out

Scott,

The video card driver I'm using is the latest for my machine. I am aware that the Beta versions are not intended for real work. Wasn't aware of that for the SP0.

There seems to be, among other things, issues when converting mesh types in a Simulation study. In one study it changed by itself. If I change the mesh type, say a beam to a solid, the software crashes. After it has crashed in this way it crash every time I try to open the file. If I open the part file first then open the assembly it doesn't crash. Be interested to hear of other users with the same problems.

RE: SW 2009 SP 0 is out

SP0 not recommended for production work?  Wow, that's a bit bold to put into the license agreement.  Who would see that as favorable?  Can we verify this?

 

Jeff Mowry
www.industrialdesignhaus.com
A people who value security over freedom will soon find they have neither.

RE: SW 2009 SP 0 is out

Well the Simulation add-in went from bad to worse and in the end it was crashing everytime I tried to open a past file or start a new study.

I've reinstalled windows desktop search at the suggestion of the VAR and removed and reinstalled 2009 also at the VAR suggestion. We'll see what happens.

RE: SW 2009 SP 0 is out

Hmm. Still causing problems. Crashes whenever I open a part file with a Simulation.

RE: SW 2009 SP 0 is out

This has been done. We await a response from SW.

RE: SW 2009 SP 0 is out

I couldn't find anything in the license agreement about SP0 not being for production. Can you point me to the section number?

Harold
SW2008 SP4.0 OPW2008 SP1 Win XP Pro 2002 SP3
Dell 690, Xeon 5160 @3.00GHz, 3.25GB RAM
nVidia Quadro FX4600
www.lumenflow.com

RE: SW 2009 SP 0 is out

I've just tried to run a drop test. These are computationally demanding so I tried to be economical with the meshing. Part of the assembly was a pipe which lends itself to being modelled as a swept surface. That was done. Opened a static study and the surface automatically appears in the parts list ready to be meshed as a shell. One thing I do not like about the new way of defining mixed meshes is that I now have to hunt through the study listing of solids, beams and shels and exclude those that solids that have been modelled with a surface. This was done automatically in 2008 when the shells could be defined in Cosmos.

When I then opened a study for a drop test (Simulation Professional) I found that the surface did not appear in the component list. Not sure why this would be the case.

Still having problems opening past Simulation studies. I may have discovered a novel way around the problem though. If you open a part without a study and then open a part with the study the program doesn't crash - at least not so far.

RE: SW 2009 SP 0 is out

(OP)
Like i said I was told it was in the license agreement, but I was unable to find it saying that specifically... unless they are using words to indicate this without actually saying it directly.

Regards,

Scott Baugh, CSWP pc2
www.scottjbaugh.com

Quote:

"If it's not broke, Don't fix it!"
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RE: SW 2009 SP 0 is out

Does anyone have access to the license agreement?  A quick text search should reveal the hidden answer.

 

Jeff Mowry
www.industrialdesignhaus.com
A people who value security over freedom will soon find they have neither.

RE: SW 2009 SP 0 is out

I'm not running v2009.  From what I understood, this is in the current license agreement, but perhaps not.  I'll check my v2007 SP5 version.

 

Jeff Mowry
www.industrialdesignhaus.com
A people who value security over freedom will soon find they have neither.

RE: SW 2009 SP 0 is out

Some terms not mentioned in the v2007 license agreement:
Production
Pack
SP (in terms of "Service Pack")
Initial

 

Jeff Mowry
www.industrialdesignhaus.com
A people who value security over freedom will soon find they have neither.

RE: SW 2009 SP 0 is out

Scott, by "not directly' I'm assuming you mean lawyer speak. I just re-read the 09 agreement that is available when you are ready to download and my eyes started crossing after a few paragraphs. Still couldn't find anything referencing SP0 as not for production, but then still not going to install just yet either.  

Harold
SW2008 SP4.0 OPW2008 SP1 Win XP Pro 2002 SP3
Dell 690, Xeon 5160 @3.00GHz, 3.25GB RAM
nVidia Quadro FX4600
www.lumenflow.com

RE: SW 2009 SP 0 is out

(OP)
I would suspect if its in there now it would be in there for past releases... but I think the person that mentioned it to me might have been mistaken, even though they are a trusted resource of mine, it might have misunderstood.

Regards,

Scott Baugh, CSWP pc2
www.scottjbaugh.com

Quote:

"If it's not broke, Don't fix it!"
FAQ731-376: Eng-Tips.com Forum Policies

RE: SW 2009 SP 0 is out

I would think that's the case since it's quite common practice not to use SP0 for serious production work--but putting that in the license agreement doesn't make any sense to me (since it really doesn't have anything to do with the user agreeing to legal terms).

Still, Rich Welch says, "I do believe that we can and will deliver SP5 quality in SP0."  That might cause some pain in the near future.  We'll wait and see--it would certainly be great.

 

Jeff Mowry
www.industrialdesignhaus.com
A people who value security over freedom will soon find they have neither.

RE: SW 2009 SP 0 is out

All,
I asked the question awhile back in this thread and no one has responded to my question.

"Has anyone tested SW2009 with PDMWorks Workgroup? Is there a new server software version?"

I would just like to know if there's any issues.

Thanks

Colin Fitzpatrick (aka Macduff)
Mechanical Designer
Solidworks 2008 SP 4.0
Dell 490 XP Pro SP 2
Xeon CPU 3.00 GHz 3.00 GB of RAM
nVida Quadro FX 3450 512 MB
3D Connexion-SpaceExplorer

RE: SW 2009 SP 0 is out

macduff,

This thread has already gone off-topic enough. You might have better luck with responses by starting a new thread.

cheers

RE: SW 2009 SP 0 is out

I wanted to download and install SW09 SP0 on my home computer and it didn't work. I was told by the installer that I need a DVD with the program.

RE: SW 2009 SP 0 is out

Good point CBL!

Colin Fitzpatrick (aka Macduff)
Mechanical Designer
Solidworks 2008 SP 4.0
Dell 490 XP Pro SP 2
Xeon CPU 3.00 GHz 3.00 GB of RAM
nVida Quadro FX 3450 512 MB
3D Connexion-SpaceExplorer

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