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Mechanical designers books and others....
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Mechanical designers books and others....

Mechanical designers books and others....

(OP)
Hi

Im after some reviews or pointers towards books for the mechanical engineer.

I have come across a book by Marks, whcih seems to cover a heck of a lot (798 somewhat pages) but it costs about a 100 quid on amazon..has anybody seen or uses this book ? Or does anyone have any other books they would recommend ?

Also, i wish to get into pneumatics, can anyone recommend where i would start to educate myself on this topic? Again i have seen some books but i have no idea if they are any good or if in fact there are any online resources.

Any help would be appreciated...

Thanks in advance

Jim

RE: Mechanical designers books and others....

thread404-221229: Pneumatic logic for gripper, on - off -on someone gave me some really good pneumatic links.

As regards books, this comes up every few months.  Take a look/do a search.

Machinery's is a good general/practical reference for many of us.

Roarkes is a good stress ref.

KENAT, probably the least qualified checker you'll ever meet...

RE: Mechanical designers books and others....

Mark's Standard Handbook for Mechanical Engineers is found on many desks and bookshelves.

Another decent general reference is "Standard Handbook of Engineering Calculations" by Hicks.

Festo used to have some good stuff on pneumatics for free.

http://www.festo-didactic.com/int-en/learning-systems/learning-systems-portal/

Upon a quick look I didn't see it now, but poke around a bit.

RE: Mechanical designers books and others....

I've never found anythig useful in Marks. I'm not saying it doesn't have its place, but it seems rather more useful for designing one-off plants than high volume production stuff.

One of Shigley's books is good to have around for real nuts and bolts calculatons.

Sorry, haven't got a clue about pneumatics books.



 

Cheers

Greg Locock

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RE: Mechanical designers books and others....

thread404-14216: Sourses For Online Books

thread731-165482: Mark's Mechanical Engineering Reference

thread404-497: Choice of Books needed

http://www.hydraulicspneumatics.com/200/eBooks/ was the pneumatics one from budt I mentioned before.

If you do your own search of this site I'm sure you'll find a bunch more opinions.

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RE: Mechanical designers books and others....

I agree with the above:

Mark's Handbook wasn't useful to me, just regurgitated college textbook stuff.

Machinery's Handbook is a great resource for practical engineering applications.

There are a few "catch-all" books on the market that have all the typical engineering formulas in them (but none of the theory behind them).  Those may be useful.

Strictly for pneumatics, I'd go look at the pneumatic equipment manufacturer's catalogs, engineering manuals, and websites.  You most likely can get everything you need for no cost from FESTO, SMC, Parker, Numatics, and a dozen others.

TygerDawg
Blue Technik LLC
Virtuoso Robotics Engineering
www.bluetechnik.com

RE: Mechanical designers books and others....

I have a few book that are in my mind a must have for Mechanical Engineers

1. Machinery's Handbook (Every good machinest, welder, and Quality Department has a copy.  This does not have to be a new copy my copy is over 10 years only and not much has change between aditions.)
2. Design of weldments by Blodgett (it covers most of the comment type of weldments)
3. Roark's (Good book for stress problems)
4. Mechanical Ref Handbook from EASA.  (I keep my near by for quick check it cover the simple thing like units slings, eyebolts, Shackles, bolts, belting and many other items.  This all can be found in the Machinery's Handbook but it is a lot small on 63 pages.)
5. Any Electrical Engineering Pocket Handbook (I have seen a number of them but they all have the same ref material in them.  It is good to know what the Electrical Engineerings are talking about.)

I keep even more at my desk but that is the top 5 for me.

As for Mark's finding anything that you need it fall far short from the above list or any of you text books.

I hvae always worked vary little with pneumatics so I can't help you with that.

Chris

"In this house, we obey the laws of thermodynamics." Homer Simpson

RE: Mechanical designers books and others....

Some of the best material for practical applications would be manufacturers' and distributors' engineering material included in product brochures. The drawback is that these  engineering design guidelines would only be applicable to their products.  This type of material is limitless and free of charge in the good old U.S.A..

RE: Mechanical designers books and others....

I use the dodge bearings catalog, the Goodyear belt catalog and Parker's o-ring catalog.

Luck is a difficult thing to verify and therefore should be tested often. - Me

RE: Mechanical designers books and others....

Try this site for Pneumatic Training stuff on the web and from several companies as a .pdf download.

http://controlsweekly.com/pneumatics.htm#general

They also have a listing for Hydraulics if you scroll the whole page.
 

Bud Trinkel, Fluid Power Consultant
HYDRA-PNEU CONSULTING

RE: Mechanical designers books and others....

chicopee is vary right about most of the free product brochures but they are good start.  Most don't go to deep in to how they got all of the values in the books.  But that has not stoped me from using them.

Chris

"In this house, we obey the laws of thermodynamics." Homer Simpson

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I STRONGLY suggest the Machinist Handbook! I refer to it as The Bible.

Marks is nice if you are doing a constant study of Material Fatigue etc. As stated, mine doesnt see daylight that often.

RE: Mechanical designers books and others....

Hi
I suggest to use this Books;
Mechanical Engineer's Handbook By:Dan B. Marghitu
Mechanical Engineer's Reference Book By:Edward H. Smith
But about penumatic & hidrolic strongly recomand you that learn Industrail automation & Simulation software: "Automation Studio" by using this software i promise u that u dont need any other refrences, if u have  Hidrolic & penumatic knowledg a bit u cam simply learn this soft, its realy applied software.

RE: Mechanical designers books and others....

amae36 I'd be cautious of that level of reliance on what I assume is essentially a design & simulation software.

Sounds similar to saying you don't need to learn how to draw/detail, just learn to use CAD.  I've seen the consequences of this attitude, it aint pretty.  Or perhaps just learning an FEA package instead of taking structures/stress courses etc.

I could be wrong but seems this type of software is just a tool that can be misused as easily as it can be correctly used.  That's not to say you can't learn anything in the process but relying on it as a primary educational tool seems risky.
 

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RE: Mechanical designers books and others....

Spotts, Design of Machine Elements
Harris, Sound and Vibration
Yeaple, Hydraulic and Pneumatic Power and Control

Ted

RE: Mechanical designers books and others....

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Mechanical engineers can become members of the Institution of Mechanical Engineers in London. As members you will have access to 1500+ books from Knovel and 24/7.

In addition you could become a member of The Institution of Engineers Australia who also have, for a premium of $33/year, access to an electronic library including many mechanical engineering textbooks.

I am sure ASME has similar electronic libraries.

One book could be the equivalent of a years subscription. Books by such authors as such as Marks, Perry, Roark & Young, Becht etc etc

These libraries are accessible through any browser. So if you are travelling you do not have to carry your textbooks with you.

Students of mechanical engineering, partaking in an accredited mechanical engineering degree course, can join both of these institutions for free.

1) Recognition by one's peers
2) Increased salary
3) Increased promotion opportunities
4) Mentoring young engineers
5) Access to technical papers
6) Benevolent Society to aid if you fall on hard times
7) Become part of the engineering village
*) Pathway to chartered engineer status
9) Increased mobility in international companies

There are many other benefits for joining such learned societies. Support your institutions otherwise they will not be there in the future.

Geoff Stone
Chairman IMechE NSW Panep Australia

RE: Mechanical designers books and others....

kenat,
u right there, u must have good base in penumatic systems to use this soft but i just give u a soggest!
I wish u can learn ur intrests as quickly that u can,but i think u must point to this goals in ur efforts to learn, keep in ur mind that there is a software in ur interest that it can make a huge changes in ur knowlegs around the penumatics, for there more this software can use as a assistance inside of the other ways such as hand books or etc, also it has a good GUI and a library of hidrolic and penumatic contents and u can simply find thair aplications and other relatid informtions however at last u must find the best way to access success.
 

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I strongly advise you to type in grammatical English. Otherwise all your pearls of wisdom will roll unnoticed under the furniture.

Cheers

Greg Locock

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RE: Mechanical designers books and others....

Thanks GregLocock
Sorry about this,my languge is not english and my grammatical is too bad,But i try to fix this!!!
dear GregLocock dont wory about my pearls of wisdom, i am take care to its hardly!

RE: Mechanical designers books and others....

What do you mean by pneumatics?

1) Power pneumatics where cylinders are used to motorise valves, hoists and other mechanical equipment
2) fluidics for control
3) pneumatic conveying
4) pneumatic control instrumentation
5) compressors and compressed air systems
 

RE: Mechanical designers books and others....

amae36,

The more you read in this Forum the more your language will improve. I am sure it is far better than our knowledge of your native tongue.

Please try not to use txt shortcuts as it tends to annoy the more experienced of the contributors. We are used to the Queen's English and try and preserve it against the rising tide of lazy speakers. A battle I am sure we will lose but we will not go down without a fight.

If we have not understood try again to put your point across.

Write once, read twice, fix and then send is a good maxim.

RE: Mechanical designers books and others....

stanier,
Sincerely thanks for your advises, I dont understand, your comment means that my post (TXT Shortcuts) tends to annoy any one? if yes, i apologize all

RE: Mechanical designers books and others....

Amae36,

Thank you for responding. I see you are listening which gives me great encouragement.

Simple things irk people such as:-

"u" should be "you"
"ur" "Your"
"i" "I"

and not taking time to correct spelling.

It is a cultural thing. We oldies are fed up with the Y Generation taking short cuts with our language rather than being proud of being precise and knowledgeable.

It is not fault of the youth of today but the teachers who were hell bent on maintaining that as long as someone understood the message the sentence construction, language and spelling did not matter. Well it does matter. If you take pride in your work you will win respect from others.

It can cost you a job, project or court case if you are not precise.

The sloppiness of the use of the English language then conjures up images of the other perceived faults of the Y Generation such as :-

use of drugs
excess alcohol
bad behaviour
poor driving habits
lack of respect for people and belongings
increase in crime

These are not all necessarily real but it is a fact that as one gets older then fear becomes a more dominant emotion.

RE: Mechanical designers books and others....

(OP)
Stainer,

Whilst i applaud your correcting of both grammatical and pronunciation in the use of the English language, im afraid i have disagree with your point of blaming the teachers.

My partner is an English teacher, and is very articulate and precise with her language and teaching of. Even seeing billboards with apostrophes in the wrong places causes her to see red ! Whilst we can only educate and try to enlighten the younger generation in the use of language I fear that this new "modern" talk is to stay and albeit but try, slang language will always be popular because people are (and becoming more) lazy.

I personally think that the mobile phone is the cause of this new English language. Constricted to only 80 characters 'See you later' can be literally 'c u l8r' saving valuable message space... whats wrong with just picking up the phone and speaking to them anyway beats me !

We digress admittedly, but I think it is a poignant point raised.

In response to my original post, I appreciate all the comments about books etc.

Thx !
 

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@Stanier,
What I found interesting in your description about generation Y was that you neglected to mention that some professions actually talk that way. Mainly it is only in parts of teh computer field and it is done to save time.
I am also still active in the IT field and some of the other boards I visit are filled with post like that and much worse, especially when it comes to acronyms. Just about every post has a TLDR(Too Long Didnt Read and s summary was given at the bottom of the post). Kind of funny was when I was getting into the field I would spend more time finding what the different acronyms meant than reading the post

On the subject of books, I have found some of the Schaum's to be helpful. I use for reference the Thermodynamics and Heat Transfer books at times. Also the books that are used in school are generally good like Shigley's and Norton's

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Guys, this is way off topic.  Similar threads have been posted in forum1010: Engineering Language/Grammar Skills I suggest you continue this there.

While the majority of highly active members of this site probably board have English (or American or some other colonial form of Englishwinky smile) as their first language there are plenty of posters with English as a second language.

Most members are very tolerant of poor grammar etc when it's because English isn't your first language, sometimes we'll even help with suggestions for improvement.  However, many of us are very intolerant of 'text speak' and the like.  If you want to get the help of those of us with a bug in our butt about text speak then meet us half way.

KENAT,

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tongue

Quote (jimsmiff):

Whilst i applaud your correcting of both grammatical and pronunciation in the use of the English language, im afraid i have disagree with your point of blaming the teachers.

My partner is an English teacher...

...thx

Five grammatical/spelling errors... Do you blame your partner? smile

I do tend to think that SMS / text messaging has promoted the use of shortcuts. Anyone accessing eng-tips via their mobile is forgiven (though I find it way too tedious with my Blackberry). Most folks who are active in eng-tips probably have a full keyboard in front of them. They can use it. Nonetheless, I am an ESL (English as a second language) person, and since my first language uses completely phonetic spelling - none of this "the letter A can make 17 different sounds depending on which word its in and multiple sounds within a word" stuff - I do have some sympathy towards "phoneticizing" English.

The IT folks can do what they want on their forums such as tek-tips. Eng-tips is for the rest of us who don't need to save bytes.

jt

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It's not just the IT that talkes like that both electrical and mechanical.  I don't think that this is helping jimsmiff with his question about referance books.

Chris

"In this house, we obey the laws of thermodynamics." Homer Simpson

RE: Mechanical designers books and others....

Aside from the usual reference books (calculations, specifications etc) the book that is usually on my desk is 'The Complete (so far) Book of Experience with Vivid Illustrations' by Myself. Very useful indeed!
Don't be afraid to look, ask questions and learn.

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Geoff,

I thought that book got banned?  Too many vivid illustrations...

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geoffthehammer wrote:
Aside from the usual reference books (calculations, specifications etc) the book that is usually on my desk is 'The Complete (so far) Book of Experience with Vivid Illustrations' by Myself. Very useful indeed!
Don't be afraid to look, ask questions and learn.

I'd like to see it. Do you have a link?????????? Or am I missing something????????
 

Bud Trinkel, Fluid Power Consultant
HYDRA-PNEU CONSULTING

RE: Mechanical designers books and others....

Bud-

To get a glimpse of "the book", I believe you'd have to buy Geoff a pint and sit down with him for a chat...

jt

RE: Mechanical designers books and others....

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