Structural Disclaimer Note
Structural Disclaimer Note
(OP)
There are times when we seal a sheet that is a "combined" architectural and structural sheet. The sheet may be primarily architectural in nature (wall sections for example) but we have come in an added structural notes, rebar, dimensions, angles, etc. instead of setting up completely separate S sheets.
When this occurs, there are times when we need to sign and seal the sheet along with the architect.
Do any of you have any special disclaimer notes that say something like "the structural seal applies only to structural items"???
Can you share them?
When this occurs, there are times when we need to sign and seal the sheet along with the architect.
Do any of you have any special disclaimer notes that say something like "the structural seal applies only to structural items"???
Can you share them?






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Mike McCann
MMC Engineering
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akastud
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I've stamped a structural detail within an architectural sheet before. Arch's stamp on the title block and mine inside my detail.
If there is an SEOR for the project and for some odd reason, structural info must be shown in other discipline's drawings, SE may not be required to sign. The limits of liability can be handled outside the contract document.
For incidental projects where there are no structural sheets, but AHJ requires the SE or PE stamp, I don't know what I'd do.
In California, for typical projects, architect stamps every sheet, engineers stamp their sheets only.
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Wow!?!? Really? Why would the architect stamp every sheet? He has no responsibility for the contents of sheets other than architectural, and no knowledge that the contents were designed correctly. What happened to the "direct supervision" requirement? I sure would not do that if I were the architect.
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We typically have stamped our sheets only. Architect will stamp his sheet even if there is some minor structural on it.
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Idea is to designate a "prime design professional" to be responsible for coordinating between all other disciplines. Typically, it is the architect, who is the prime, which hire all other disciplines to complete the project.
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This has always been accepted by the AHJ.
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Additionally, we have a stamp with our firm's name, address, PE number, and state Certificate of Authorization on it. It is a state law that that information be on stamped documents.
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It is not practical to make the distinction on the drawings. Best thing may be to specify what is included in your scope of work/responsibility on the contract between you and your client (architect?). Have an exclusion clause with a list of items not included in your scope, such as supplemental framing, etc.
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"(3) When signing and sealing documents containing work done by or under the responsible charge of two or more licensees, the signature and seal of each licensee in responsible charge shall be placed on the documents with a notation describing the work done under each licensee's responsible charge."
You should check with your state board.