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Is SW2008 a Memory Hog?
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Is SW2008 a Memory Hog?

Is SW2008 a Memory Hog?

(OP)
Why is it that I can only open 1/3 of the number of files in SW2008 than in SW2008 before i get a short on resourses warning?  Is this program a memory hog?

RE: Is SW2008 a Memory Hog?

Each new version of SW (and other similar programs) demands more resources than the previous version.

cheers

RE: Is SW2008 a Memory Hog?

SolidWorks has always been a memory hog, it just consumes more with each interation, which is why hardware requirements keep going up. '08, in particular, was worse with all the new graphics.  

Jeff Mirisola, CSWP, Certified DriveWorks AE
http://designsmarter.typepad.com/jeffs_blog

RE: Is SW2008 a Memory Hog?

(OP)
Its pretty bad when you can only open 3 part files when I used to be able to open 10 - and the parts are not very complex

My experience so far tells me that this version Sucks - Dont buty it

Hopefully 2009 will be better

RE: Is SW2008 a Memory Hog?

I can't run a rendered assy animation without SW crashing.
A regular animation runs good, just not rendered.
So far it's the only memory issue I have.

Chris
SolidWorks/PDMWorks 08 3.1
AutoCAD 08
ctopher's home (updated Aug 5, 2008)
ctopher's blog
SolidWorks Legion

RE: Is SW2008 a Memory Hog?

I'm using '08 and can have a 2200 part assembly open, along with sub-assemblies, sub-sub assemblies and part files without a problem. It's not the software, chances are it's your hardware. What are your system specs?

Jeff Mirisola, CSWP, Certified DriveWorks AE
http://designsmarter.typepad.com/jeffs_blog

RE: Is SW2008 a Memory Hog?

(OP)
Pentium D  2.8 Ghz  1 GB Ram

The file sizes are about .5 meg each

Windows XP

RE: Is SW2008 a Memory Hog?

Yeah every year the software becomes "better".

Just dont count on meeting deadlines, working throughout the day without crashes or not losing work.  That all comes bundled standard with your copy of SW Office Premium Deluxe SP8.0

SW2008 Office Pro SP4.0
Intel Core 2 Duo CPU
2.2GHz, 2.00GB RAM
QuadroFX 3700
SpacePilot

RE: Is SW2008 a Memory Hog?

(OP)
So do I now need 10 GB ram when 1 was fine?

So i guess not only do you have to fork out $4500 per year for solidworks but now another $2000 per year to keep up your comp to run it

Ouch - x 3  when you consider that there are no features that are worth having - but i need compatability with my clients

Big jump for 1 year

RE: Is SW2008 a Memory Hog?

I've found SW08 to be even more stable than SW07. If you can only open 3 files, you definitely have an install or hardware/driver problem.

Did you do a clean un-install and install of SW08?

Is your PC running Desktop Search and Indexing? Either can cause major slow downs.

Do you have the /3GB switch enabled?

Adding another Gig of RAM would probably help, but it sounds like you have deeper problems.

cheers

RE: Is SW2008 a Memory Hog?

CBL:  Depending on the IT departments sometimes you cant even disable indexing or desktop search.

SW2008 Office Pro SP4.0
Intel Core 2 Duo CPU
2.2GHz, 2.00GB RAM
QuadroFX 3700
SpacePilot

RE: Is SW2008 a Memory Hog?

Did you run the conversion Wizard on all SW files before opening them in SW08?

cheers

RE: Is SW2008 a Memory Hog?

Why do people feel the need to take things to the extreme? No, you don't need 10 gigs of RAM. Unless you have 3 seats of SolidWorks, you're also not coughing up $4500/year. I suppose you could be buying a new seat every year, but that wouldn't be very smart. As for "no features worth having", that's your opinion, and you're entitled to it. Personally, I don't agree with you, but that's my opinion.
What about your video card? Is it approved? Did you update the drivers for 2008?

Jeff Mirisola, CSWP, Certified DriveWorks AE
http://designsmarter.typepad.com/jeffs_blog

RE: Is SW2008 a Memory Hog?

uGlay,

Even if you can't disable it/them, they can be tweaked to minimize their effect.

cheers

RE: Is SW2008 a Memory Hog?

Spurs,
It's not that bad.
If you follow the correct hardware specs and correct installation, very little issues.

Chris
SolidWorks/PDMWorks 08 3.1
AutoCAD 08
ctopher's home (updated Aug 5, 2008)
ctopher's blog
SolidWorks Legion

RE: Is SW2008 a Memory Hog?

Spurs,

If you NEED to do engineering work you should expect to NEED a good workstation. Solidworks doesn't need to accommodate people running outdated consumer hardware. 1 Gig of ram is ridiculous when 4gigs costs less than 100 dollars, and is the most worthwhile upgrade you can make. Its the cost of doing business, you should factor that into your business plan that you will have to continually upgrade machines as time goes on. Thankfully, we have tax deductions.

That said, I wish it was faster too, but I really wish they would fix all their video card compatibility problems first.  

RE: Is SW2008 a Memory Hog?

(OP)
CorBlimeyLimey

The computer was reformatted to do a system complete clean up, then 2007 was installed.  About a week later, I finally got around to installing 2008 when a client sent me files that needed 2008.  I started the install from DVD, but was told by the software right up front that a newer SP was avaialbe over the web so downloaded SP 4.0) off off the SW website.

How much cleaner than that install can it get? What possible installation problems would that give me?

My PC is not running desktop search

Video card is approved - remember I was running SW 2007 flawlessly for about a year on the exact same system.

I did however make one change in recent weeks - new monitor but i am running the same resolution  1680 x 1050  - but again SW2007 runs fine.

What is the /3GB switch you are referring to?  Where is it and what does it do?






 

RE: Is SW2008 a Memory Hog?

(OP)
Dieterle

The only reason for upgrading SW is because versions are not backwards compatable.  Otherwise I would be upgrading systems on my business plan timetable - not based on Solidworks business plan on screwing everyone every year for upgrades whether they want them or not!

RE: Is SW2008 a Memory Hog?

It's not the only reason for a lot of us. I upgrade for the new features...and keep up with the rest of the world.

Chris
SolidWorks/PDMWorks 08 3.1
AutoCAD 08
ctopher's home (updated Aug 5, 2008)
ctopher's blog
SolidWorks Legion

RE: Is SW2008 a Memory Hog?

Only being able to open 10 parts (2007 or 2008) is not "running fine".  Your system is severely crippled.  I routinely have about 20 windows and a couple hundred files open at once with no problems.  What is your business plan for upgrading systems?  Every five years?  1GB of RAM has been on the (very) low side for at least that long.

-handleman, CSWP (The new, easy test)

RE: Is SW2008 a Memory Hog?

Quote:

Pentium D  2.8 Ghz  1 GB Ram

The file sizes are about .5 meg each

Hate to say it, but either the way the parts were modeled sucks or your system just sucks.

Considering how small the models are and how many parts you can open, you have some serious problems.  Was an anti-virus running during the installation process? Consider re-installing or try this tip: http://www.scottjbaugh.com/Tips_Tricks/Reinstall_Tip.htm

 As cheap as RAM is today, you ought to at the very least double it.  Also, is your graphics card approved? (not did it work in a previous version)

http://www.solidworks.com/sw/support/videocardtesting.html


 

Flores

RE: Is SW2008 a Memory Hog?

Quote:

The computer was reformatted to do a system complete clean up,
Great ... you can't get any cleaner than that.

Quote:

then 2007 was installed.  About a week later, I finally got around to installing 2008 when a client sent me files that needed 2008.  I started the install from DVD, but was told by the software right up front that a newer SP was avaialbe over the web so downloaded SP 4.0) off off the SW website.

What possible installation problems would that give me?
Unless you are doing a multi-install, plenty.
Did you completely remove SW07 first?
Did you do a multi-install? (i.e. have SW07 and SW08 installed)

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My PC is not running desktop search
That's good.

Quote:

Video card is approved - remember I was running SW 2007 flawlessly for about a year on the exact same system.
Approved for SW07 maybe ... but is it (and the driver) approved for SW08. The requirements change for every version.

Quote:

I did however make one change in recent weeks - new monitor but i am running the same resolution  1680 x 1050  - but again SW2007 runs fine.
That shouldn't affect SW08 performance.

Quote:

What is the /3GB switch you are referring to?  Where is it and what does it do?
Download the 3gb_switch_part_one,_two,_&_three.pdf from http://kcswug.com/documents/articles/

There are oodles of general sites, articles, blogs & documents on google if you use /3gb switch as the search words.

If you decide to re-install SW08 (recommended), make sure the anti-virus is disabled.

cheers

RE: Is SW2008 a Memory Hog?

1.  I have experienced issues when installing on a new machine and installed the latest service pack.  I now always install from the DVD then down load and upgrade to the latest service pack.

2.  Check to see what addins are being loaded.  You maybe loading more apps in the back ground in 08 than you were with 07.

3.  I have to agree with others here that your machine seems pretty obsolete.  I have not purchased a pc for home use (surfing the web, reading email, quicken) with less than 1 gig of ram in 5 years.  The min. requirements listed for 2009 is 1gb.  I would not think of working on a min requirement computer, but then again I really hate when I can think faster than the computer.  If I have to wait for software it is time to upgrade the hardware.

RE: Is SW2008 a Memory Hog?

(OP)
Well for all of you RAM hounds - 3 gig still doesnt do it!

I tried it - yes it is a bit faster - barely noticeable - but it still hangs.

I think I am going to have to uninstall it and take GRFs suggestion and instal from CD then download SPs -

I usually disable Anti virus on any installation, but the installation of SW2008 off of their site took so long before that i wonder if the timer on disabling Norton Anti Virus ran out before everything was loaded.

 

RE: Is SW2008 a Memory Hog?

And double-check CorBlimeyLimey's suggestion of updating the graphics driver to what the SW site recommends for v2008.  I'm betting it's different than the v2007 driver, and graphics issues are huge with SolidWorks--need to use the right card and driver to get things done without problems.

There is plenty of negative feedback among users regarding v2008 for various reasons.  We skipped that version here (sits on a shelf, paid for), and that's the first we've ever done anything like that.  Like Chris, I like to have access to the newest feature set in the newest version, but I didn't see much I really needed from v2008 in the What's New documentation or the VAR roll-out.  Bummer.  Lots of things I'm eager to try from v2009, however.  I think maybe SolidWorks did a little more user-based homework on that version--let's hope so.

 

Jeff Mowry
www.industrialdesignhaus.com
A people who value security over freedom will soon find they have neither.

RE: Is SW2008 a Memory Hog?

Thanks Joe, I hadn't seen that page before. That's good to know.

cheers

RE: Is SW2008 a Memory Hog?

(OP)
Well my antivirus is Norton 2008 which has been approved according to the link JMary sent.  So - can the installation still be the problem?

RE: Is SW2008 a Memory Hog?

Anything is possible ... it's just less likely now.

I have always had excellent results by disabling thew AV. I think I will continue to do so.

Upgrading from SW07 to SW08 without doing a clean uninstall-reinstall (of SW) is more likely to cause problems.
Installing SP0 then updating to SP4 should give the best results.

Sometimes a rogue/lemon computer can cause all sorts of weird problems. I do the IT for about 10 very similar PCs, and am constantly having problems with one in particular (no SolidWorks involved on that machine). It takes just one faulty component to create totally illogical conflicts with some software.

cheers

RE: Is SW2008 a Memory Hog?

(OP)
Further Update on this problem

I upgraded to 3 GB ram

I refomatted my comp again

Installed SW 2008 off of CD - Norton Antivirus was not even installed on the computer at the time I installed SW 2008

Installed latest service packs off of the website

Upgraded Comp to 3 GB Ram

RESULT

No difference from before !

SW 2008 runs perfectly fine as long as you only have 4 files open.  These could even be complicated assemblies.  As soon as I open a 5th part file - as small as a bushing -the system bogs down.  It takes about 2 minutes to load a bushing as the 5th file, and then another 2 minutes to close the 5th file.  Then the system runs fine again. - Unless you open another 5th file.

The 5th file could be anything - it does the same thing.

Any more insite as to how to stop this frustration?

 

RE: Is SW2008 a Memory Hog?

Ooops, sorry I just re-read your post and realised you said you had upgraded to 3GB RAM. My two remaining brain cells interpreted that as you were using the /3GB switch.

cheers

RE: Is SW2008 a Memory Hog?

Do you have Hyperthreading disabled in the BIOS?

cheers

RE: Is SW2008 a Memory Hog?

There are some graphicscards, not ceritified, like the ATI radeon series, that is only supporting a limited number of open windows at the same time. Just stabbing in the dark, but...

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