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auto insert 3 standard views?
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auto insert 3 standard views?

auto insert 3 standard views?

(OP)
We all know of the standard 3 views button, but is there a way for solidworks to automatically generate them? I would like to put it in the template so this happens. Thanks

SW x64 2007 SP 5.0  

RE: auto insert 3 standard views?

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Check for drawing views, predefined in the SW Help index.

cheers

RE: auto insert 3 standard views?

(OP)
^ Your the man! I didn't know you could do that.

Now to figure out the drawing templates. Management said we needed rev table on all prints starting with A (initial release) due to audit.

I couldn't find a way to do it without creating all new .drwdot files and get rid of our .slddrt files. Everytime I switched to different sheet formats the rev table lost its ancor hah.. even when I set the ancor and saved it.

Now we have
A-Metric.drwdot
A.drwdot
B-Metric.drwdot
B.drwdot

and so on.. sucky part is after you selected what size paper your using, you can't change it.  

RE: auto insert 3 standard views?

Search through the Help menu. It explains how to change the paper size and how to work with templates.

Chris
SolidWorks/PDMWorks 08 3.1
AutoCAD 06/08
ctopher's home (updated Jul 13, 2008)
ctopher's blog

RE: auto insert 3 standard views?

(OP)
^ I read it for an hour. I must be missing something.

Nowhere in the help file have I seen how to have a revision table on the drawings automatically.

I will keep searching.  

RE: auto insert 3 standard views?

It's all very easy.  SolidWorks has a standard ASME based revision table that you can simply insert into your drawing.  

It sounds like your company is trying to insert some controls.  I recommend doing some serious reading up on this or you may fall into several documentational traps from not knowing the full capability of SW and maybe misapplying what it can do in the wrong way.

First, do not release your sheet format/drawing template through your product release processes (ECO/EC/CC's or whatever your company calls it).  The drawing is released on a case by case basis, and the title block should not be viewed as its own discrete released document.

Also, do not expect to have all revisions listed in the revision block.  This is not an ASME requirement anyway.  List the most recent and how ever many back that space allows.  A record of previous revisions should exist regardless to what appears in the revision block.

There's a lot of other things too.  It will take time to figure it all out, so don't sweat the small stuff right away.

Matt Lorono
CAD Engineer/ECN Analyst
Silicon Valley, CA
Lorono's SolidWorks Resources
Co-moderator of Solidworks Yahoo! Group
and Mechnical.Engineering Yahoo! Group

RE: auto insert 3 standard views?

Quote:

I couldn't find a way to do it without creating all new .drwdot files
Open the .drwdot file, insert the revision table (and attach it to the anchor), then save the .drwdot file.

Quote:

.... and get rid of our .slddrt files.
Why would you get rid of them? That's where the anchors are set. It sounds like you're not saving the sheet formats (.slddrt) correctly after setting the anchor. Are you using the File > Save Sheet Format option?

Quote:

sucky part is after you selected what size paper your using, you can't change it.
If you RMB on a drawing sheet you should be presented with a list of all your sheet format (.slddrt) sizes ... but not if you have deleted them.




 

cheers

RE: auto insert 3 standard views?

(OP)
Found bad news in the help file...

"Multiple sheet style. Controls revision tables in drawings with multiple sheets:

See Sheet 1. The revision table on the first sheet is the active table. On all other drawing sheets, the revision table is labeled See Sheet 1.

Linked. A copy of the revision table from sheet 1 is created on all sheets, and all revision tables update as one. For example, if you add a revision on one sheet, the revision tables on all other sheets include the revision.

Independent. The revision table on each sheet is independent of any other revision table in the drawing. Updates to a revision table are not reflected in tables on other sheets. This option is unavailable if Revision driven from PDMWorks Workgroup is selected."

We are not using a PDM. I place the revision table in my .drwdot file. When I change the sheet size, the revision table goes off into space. Looks like I can't have it automatic.  

RE: auto insert 3 standard views?

(OP)
Yes I am using the File > Save Sheet Format for the .slddrt files.

No matter where I put the ancor in the .slddrt file, the revision table is still connected to the anchor in the .drwdot file.

frustrating.  

RE: auto insert 3 standard views?

You need to ensure that all sheet formats have the anchor set and saved correctly.

cheers

RE: auto insert 3 standard views?

You need to read up on the differences between Templates (drwdot) and Sheet Formats (slddrt).  This topic is very poorly understood by a large majority of SW users.

Templates contain:

Dimension standards
Lineweights
Layers
Default fonts/colors
Etc, etc, etc.  Basically, all of the options under Tools->Options, Document Properties tab are stored in the Template.

Each Template will contain a Sheet Format (which can be changed in the Sheet Properties, by the way).  It could contain more than one sheet format if you save a multi-sheet template.  Sheet formats should contain the title block/border along with any standard notes.  In addition, the sheet format contains all the table anchors and paper space size information.  This is the displayed drawing area size, not the printer's paper size setting.

When a sheet format (slddrt) is loaded into a drawing document a link is not maintained between the document's sheet format and the slddrt file it was loaded from.  Therefore, when you "set the ancor and saved it", you only saved the anchor location in the Sheet Format of the template (drwdot) file.  This is why when you change the sheet formats you lose your anchor position.  You are "reloading" the old anchor position from the slddrt file.  If you want to save the anchor position into the sheet format, you have to save it into the sheet format (slddrt) and not the drawing template (drwdot).

-handleman, CSWP (The new, easy test)

RE: auto insert 3 standard views?

CBL, JMirisola, Ctopher thanks, I didn't know there was a help file. pipe

Flores

RE: auto insert 3 standard views?

(OP)
1. I have read the help file.

2. I have saved the ancor location in the .slddrt files individually.

3. It still doesn't work.

I am contacting my VAR. The sarcasm wasn't needed in this thread.  

RE: auto insert 3 standard views?

(OP)
^ Yes I do.
I just did pictures to show the issue.

I make a drawing from my part.
We have three templates
Japanese
Metric
English

For this I want english


It comes up like this. As you can see revision table is in the correct spot.


Now I want to change the sheet size to a C. I do that


and now my revision table is not anchored in the right spot


I have went into every sheet format and made sure the anchor  point was set to the top right hand corner.  

RE: auto insert 3 standard views?

I think what CBL is asking is are you sure that you are loading the sheet format that you saved?  Instead of picking from the list, use the "Browse" button and force it to use the location where you know you saved the correct .slddrt file.

-handleman, CSWP (The new, easy test)

RE: auto insert 3 standard views?

(OP)
^ I know what he was asking. Yes, it is using the correct location and .slddrt file.  

RE: auto insert 3 standard views?

(OP)
Just received this from my VAR
" I will submit this to solidworks on your behalf. The workaround is to edit the table setting then toggle off attaché to anchor then toggle it back on. It will snap to the anchor point of the new format. Just seems to me like they are not recalculating this."

Seems to be an issue with SW.  

RE: auto insert 3 standard views?

(OP)
VAR just emailed me stating that the problem also exists in SW 2008.

Now I have to have 8 designers double clicking the attach anchor button to "refresh" it when changing sheet sizes for every drawing. Ugh. I hope SW finds a fix to the problem.  

RE: auto insert 3 standard views?

Here's something that I haven't seen addressed yet.  The .drwdot is the first sheet, all other sheets are from a .slddrt file.  You can not store predefined views or tables in the slddrt.  You can store any notes, and any table format (sketches)in the sheet format

We recently just hit all of our ISO certification stuff and I had to due the sheets.  I couldn't rotate the revision table 90 deg to fit in our title block so I made a hand sketched revision block and added $prpsheet notes to pull the revision information from the parts and assemblies.

I also recommend inserting a blank isometric view versus a projected isometric view.

RE: auto insert 3 standard views?

(OP)
^ ahh. So if I am understanding that right you made your own sorta block for the table.

Only downside I see with that is losing the ability to "Add Revision" and have the ballon automatically pop up.

 

RE: auto insert 3 standard views?

Arcticcatmatt,

I've always seen that problem with losing anchor points as you have described.

Joe
SW Office 2006 SP5.1
P4 3.0Ghz 1GB
ATI FireGL X1

RE: auto insert 3 standard views?

arcticcatmatt,

Thanks for the feedback. I have never needed to change sheet size once a revision table was in place, so had not seen that problem before. I just did some tests with SW08-SP4 and now see the problem.  

cheers

RE: auto insert 3 standard views?

Just found this in the SW KB.

Quote:

SPR 199950: revision table anchor points are not remembered if the Drawing sheet size is edited.

Customer Status: Closed (Inactive)

Anyone know what the "Closed (Inactive)" means?

cheers

RE: auto insert 3 standard views?

(OP)
^ What is the SW KB? How did you find that? Neat!

Sucks that its closed.. IT ISN'T FIXED! :)  

RE: auto insert 3 standard views?

SW KB = SolidWorks Knowledge Base

It can be accessed from the SW Customer Portal.  

cheers

RE: auto insert 3 standard views?

(OP)
^ Thanks. I will have to check that out when I am not getting whipped here to hit impossible deadlines.  

RE: auto insert 3 standard views?

I want to thank everyone for the contributions to this thread. I fixed my long term lost anchors problem and can now start using standard revision tables in all my drawings.
"acolades all around"

--
Hardie "Crashj" Johnson
SW 2008 SP4
Nvidia Quadro FX 1000
AMD Athalon 1.8 GHz 2 Gig RAM

 

RE: auto insert 3 standard views?

(OP)
^ If you find a fix to make it remember the anchor location when you switch drawing sheet sizes let me know  

RE: auto insert 3 standard views?

Just had this pointed out to me.

Quote (Richard Doyle):

Under the My Support section of the Customer Portal there is a link to "view SPR's (Bugs)". Clicking on this link will show a listing of your reported SPRs, and this page contains the following key to each status:

SPR Status Key:

Open - Open active issue.
Implemented - Fixed in version and service pack listed.
Closed - Will not be implemented.
Closed (Implemented) - No longer reproducible in the version and service pack listed.
Closed (Corrupt file) - File fixed.
Closed (Inactive) - Closed due to inactivity. To re-open, contact your support representative.
Closed (Duplicate) - Closed as a duplicate of an existing issue.
Under Review (Implemented) - Under review.
Under Review (Corrupt file) - Under review as a corrupt file.
Under Review (Duplicate) - Under review as a duplicate of an existing issue.

So, arcticcatmatt, quote the SPR to you VAR and make sure they reactivate it.

cheers

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