terminology question--stamp or seal?
terminology question--stamp or seal?
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We talk about "stamping" drawings all the time. Is the legal term uniformly "seal" or is "stamp" okay?
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David
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But, a seal is not the physical embossing so much as the actual design of the logo. Therefore, we stamp our seal onto a drawing. In the vernacular, either description works.
--Scott
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On the other hand - I think I have only been asked twice for documentaion when ordering one of my many seals. What does that say?? Anyone can get a seal??
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Don Phillips
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This particular argument came about because there are what I'll call "seals" (whether they're embossers, rubber stamps, graphics, or whatever) that represent the PE's PE status and look like the round embossed seal regardless, and then there are various kinds of "stamps" (generally in the form of rubber stamp, though in this day and age also appliable eletronically) that are used in situations that do not call for the formal P.E. seal.
An example would be that in my state, bridge design drawings are signed, sealed, and dated by a P.E. The shop drawings generated by a fabricator or detailer, on the other hand, are reviwed by the P.E.'s firm for consistency with the design, but are not sealed--instead they get the "stamp" that says approved, rejected, etc., and usually includes a bunch of disclaimer language about how the EOR is not responsible for any errors on the shop drawings.
The specification proposal I was looking at conflated these two functions. I needed to separate them out, and proposed "seal" for one and "stamp" for the other. The other person in the discussion wanted "stamp" for the first and used some more general language not referring to stamps at all for the mechanism for indicating review. At that point it wasn't worth arguing about any more, as long as we separated the functions, but I still believe I see "seal" used for that P.E. function more often, and wanted a sanity check. If there really is consistent use of "seal" for that, then we might be opening ourselves up to trouble by using "stamp" instead.
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I am aware of one case where an architect used sticky back seals for work, that the PE who's seal, he was applying had no knowledge of the job.
One advantage of the use of an embossed seal was that it could not be photo copied.
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Yeah, you're correct in using the term "seal". That is the term that the laws in TX use:
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Next time I'm asked for input on a stamp/seal question, maybe I'll gather some data on various state law references & stick to my guns. A phone conversation just wasn't the time for it.
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Interesting story about WV. When they sent my approval letter with my number, I was to get a stamp, stamp the letter, and mail it back to them with a fee to be legally licensed. This way they would have a record of the stamp.
Well, I created a stamp in CAD, scanned the letter into Acrobat, electronically stamped the letter, and mailed it to them with the fee. About a week later, I received my wall certificate.
I have not checked their website lately but I remember reading they were in the process of allowing electronic stamps and signatures. Good thing for color printers since the letter had lots of colors and may been rejected if sent in looking like a copy.
Don Phillips
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