Persistently hide selected PMI in view?
Persistently hide selected PMI in view?
(OP)
This is probably easy but I can't seem to figure it out:
I've inherited PMI onto a drawing, but I'd like to be able to persistently hide selected view instances of the same type of PMI (for example: I'd like to hide a surface finish annotation in one part of one view). Problem is, as soon as the sheet is updated, the hidden PMI pops back up.
Suggestions?
Thanks.
I've inherited PMI onto a drawing, but I'd like to be able to persistently hide selected view instances of the same type of PMI (for example: I'd like to hide a surface finish annotation in one part of one view). Problem is, as soon as the sheet is updated, the hidden PMI pops back up.
Suggestions?
Thanks.





RE: Persistently hide selected PMI in view?
John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
NX Design
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
Cypress, CA
http://www.siemens.com/plm
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RE: Persistently hide selected PMI in view?
Same behavior when going to Edit>Show and Hide>Hide. Neither of the above two approaches act any differently if the PMI is inherited onto the View only, or onto the Drawing.
John, I tried your suggestion of Edit>View>View Dependent Edit...erase (also tried this by right clicking the view boundary and entering View Dependent Edit that way) but neither approach hides the PMI object.
Still looking for a solution.
BTW the NX version is 5.0.4.1
RE: Persistently hide selected PMI in view?
John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
NX Design
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
Cypress, CA
http://www.siemens.com/plm
http://www.plmworld.org/museum/
To an Engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.
RE: Persistently hide selected PMI in view?
RE: Persistently hide selected PMI in view?
Believe it if you need it or leave it if you dare. - Robert Hunter
RE: Persistently hide selected PMI in view?
John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
NX Design
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
Cypress, CA
http://www.siemens.com/plm
http://www.plmworld.org/museum/
To an Engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.
RE: Persistently hide selected PMI in view?
For me it boils down to the fact that it is so easy to show all inadvertently, resulting in wasted time having to go through and re-hide entities.
Believe it if you need it or leave it if you dare. - Robert Hunter
RE: Persistently hide selected PMI in view?
BTW, despite what you may think, layer schemes are not all that common today. In fact, many consider them a holdover from the days of 2D wireframe design and drafting when virtually every single item that you saw on the screen represented a separate independent object such as a line or an arc and therefore with hundreds, if not thousands, of small bits and pieces, we needed some scheme to managed them in a manner where they could be considered part of a single object or class of objects. However those issues are no longer as relevant as they were in the past and so more modern and easier to understand schemes are being utilized whenever possible.
Now this does NOT mean that we're abandoning Layers because we're not (we've even enhanced at least the user interface in NX 6 and plan for more changes in the future), but that doesn't mean that Layers will once again become the primary method for 'cleaning up' your files, but rather just another tool, suitable for some things but not as useful as others.
BTW, I would recommend that you start telling your users to use Edit -> Show and Hide -> Show... INSTEAD of Edit -> Show and Hide -> Show All as their normal means of seeing what else might be part of their model or drawing files. Anyone who would EVER use Edit -> Show and Hide -> Show All on a file in which they do not have a complete understand of is just being reckless as far as I'm concerned.
John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
NX Design
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
Cypress, CA
http://www.siemens.com/plm
http://www.plmworld.org/museum/
To an Engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.
RE: Persistently hide selected PMI in view?
Layers are very efficient for grouping relevant construction geometry together. You can label the layer or group of layers to allow subsequent people who develop the part some well needed documentation. Can this be done with show hide?
When dealing with hundreds or even thousands of construction curves datums sheets and sketches to have them all showing on mass is very confusing to the eye and makes selection difficult. Yes users still have to deal with this type of number of construction geometry John.
Being able to switch on/off a group of construction features/geometry is something we could simply not do without.
Am I misssing something here or does show hide have some extra functions I'm not aware of?
NX 4
Mark Benson
Aerodynamic Model Designer
RE: Persistently hide selected PMI in view?
We also have things like feature sets in the Part Navigator since features unless they are standalone objects can't be moved to a layer and in the Assembly Navigator we are using groups there as well which actually behave as filters, which is another type of collector.
That being said layer have several limitations which we would like to think can be overcome in the future. These include the fact that layers have a finite number. They are mutually exclusive (an Item can only be 'on' one layer). They're not hierarchical (I can't add a layer to a layer), etc.
John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
NX Design
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
Cypress, CA
http://www.siemens.com/plm
http://www.plmworld.org/museum/
To an Engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.
RE: Persistently hide selected PMI in view?
Believe it if you need it or leave it if you dare. - Robert Hunter
RE: Persistently hide selected PMI in view?
A folder is just a metaphor and a scheme for presenting it, but in the end it's a 'collector' with certain rules and characteristics as defined by the user, which allows me to perform global tasks/operations on all the members of a folder with a single select operation, such as Hide, Show, Delete, display as 'Red', etc.
John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
NX Design
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
Cypress, CA
http://www.siemens.com/plm
http://www.plmworld.org/museum/
To an Engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.
RE: Persistently hide selected PMI in view?
Believe it if you need it or leave it if you dare. - Robert Hunter