What Ever Happened to RAPIDC?
What Ever Happened to RAPIDC?
(OP)
I'm curious, I can't seem to find the FAA program Called
RAPIDC (Repair Assessment Procedure and Integrated Design - Commuter)? I've found numerous links only to PDF files talking about the program, but I can't seem to locate the actual program.
Anybody know where I can find it, or what happened to it?
RAPIDC (Repair Assessment Procedure and Integrated Design - Commuter)? I've found numerous links only to PDF files talking about the program, but I can't seem to locate the actual program.
Anybody know where I can find it, or what happened to it?
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Nert





RE: What Ever Happened to RAPIDC?
I didn't install it on my PC, so I can't vouch for or take blame for problems it might create on your computer.
I couldn't find RAPIDC on FAA's site either.
Do you want the full set of files? I have user manuals and the installation *.exe file, and can stick the files on a public FTP if you like (my own site, not engineering.com's, which doesn't allow me to post files for some reason).
RE: What Ever Happened to RAPIDC?
Cheers,
NERT
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Nert
RE: What Ever Happened to RAPIDC?
Prost;
I would be interested to download the RAPIDC software.
Regards,
Dan
RE: What Ever Happened to RAPIDC?
It's about 40 MB in size, so make certain you have either a long time to wait or broadband Internet connection.
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Prost,
I'm ready when you are.
We have a fast connection, 40Mb should not be a problem this end.
Dan
RE: What Ever Happened to RAPIDC?
http://www.apesolutions.com/spd/public
Download the whole directory, RAPIDC.
You are also welcome to download any of that other junk on there. The two PDFs
Stress_Course_for_Liasion_Engineers.pdf
and
Aircraft_Structures_for_Engineers___Solutions.pdf
are particularly interesting, IMO. They are some notes and solutions from a stress course for liaison engineers that Boeing gave years ago. (I know, I know, liaison is misspelled in the name of the PDF!).
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Thanks a lot, let's hope it's not too complicated for me...
Dan
RE: What Ever Happened to RAPIDC?
I for one have my doubts about utility of the MIL 5 update file there.
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Thanks anyway.
Wonder if a complete version is coming or if "official interest vaned"?
Dan
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Jawohl!
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I work for a MRO and we frequently repair outside the SRM, in which case we have to go to Boeing or Airbus for approval. This software seemed like a quick way of ensuring better repair suggestions with better chance for approval. Too bad it was only a Beta version. Maybe the sub-sub- people can fix it and sell it?
Worrying about "dumming down" the process is quite unfounded. It needs to be "dummied down" for safety.
To elaborate, when certificating an airplane design the flying qualities must not necessitate "undue piloting skill".
I wish there was a similar requirement for SRM:s. I know one large european manufacturer whose SRM is so complicated and difficult to work with that I am worried there are repairs done with the best intentions that still are not iaw the SRM.
You need to remember that in real life there is little or no time for analysis at the MRO end. Where I work there is barely time to make decent drawings of the damage and repair.
Although the software is for commuters and not transports, the static part would be a valuable tool.
The TC-holder still has the final word.
Dan
RE: What Ever Happened to RAPIDC?
Re. RAPIDC, seems one can update the software with whatever combinations of fastener type, diameter, sheet type and thickness you need.
A lot of manual work, using data from MIL-HDBK-5 or your own sources, but it is probably worth it.
When all else fails, read the manual... And look for new information, not just information that confirms your pre-concieved notions.
Dan (No, not from Germany, rb1957)
RE: What Ever Happened to RAPIDC?
I have so far updated the .DAT-files with MS20470AD, HLT335, HL329, HL326 for 7075T6, 2024T3 and Ti6Al-4V.
Can't make the program accept Ti as a skin material, only as doubler material.
Is anyone out there interested in updating and exchanging files to make this a joint effort?
Brgds
Dan
RE: What Ever Happened to RAPIDC?
A couple of things... In working for an MRO, if you hardly have time to draw up the repair, how do you have time to run Rapid? I've found it to very time consuming to use. You don't have to go to Boeing or Airbus for approvals, some DER's can approve them also. In my experience, they're alot faster than Boeing or Airbus. For 2nd tier operators, cheaper too.
RE: What Ever Happened to RAPIDC?
sigmatau,
If you come up with a good repair suggestion to Boeing, it usually goes a lot faster. It's trying to find where the optimum is. Do I make an elaborate design and risk having them change most of it, meaning I wasted time? Or do I send only the damage description and wait?
Don't get me wrong, they (Boeing, Airbus) are generally very fast and it's not a big problem really. It's just that I want to be more a part of the process than merely making drawings.
Re. DER's, you still have to go to Boeing or Airbus for the damage tolerance assessment, right?
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No DER's here, we're in Europe, EASALand. To do it ourselves we would need a DOA which costs a fortune to apply for and another fortune every 24 months to keep. We let the customers talk to Boeing and Airbus on their expense instead. It really isn't a problem, just want to do better and perhaps quicker.
Did you use the RAPIDC at all beyond testing?
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I have never tried to DT "for real". If you are a DER or otherwise outside Boeing or Airbus, what load spectrums do you use?
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Thanks.
Randall Shelaga C.E.T.
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www.apesolutions.com/spd/public
Let me know in this forum if you have a problem with
any of the files (perhaps there was a problem transferring files from my computer to the download site; if so, I can try to recopy the file(s) and see if that works).
I am curious: is anybody using RAPIDC?
RE: What Ever Happened to RAPIDC?
Thanks. I have downoaded the file. Many moons ago, when I was on the fleet support side of the house, we started working with RAPID, and if I remember correctly, my supervisor was involved in some of the meetings/working groups. Now that I am involved in airworthiness, I have lost track of what happened, but I am still interested in the app.
I think a grass roots movement to at least update material and fastener properties would be useful.
Now for another relic of days gone by...Virtual DER.
Thanks again.
Randall Shelaga C.E.T.
RE: What Ever Happened to RAPIDC?
I have updated the fastener files for version 2 to some degree.
I suppose they will work for v 3 as well?
Regards
Dan
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Randall Shelaga C.E.T.