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Looking pretty tall

Looking pretty tall

RE: Looking pretty tall

I would love to go to Dubai. I heard they are building Dubailand.  Which is 2X as big as Disyneyland.  It is good to see that our gas money goes to good use.

Never, but never question engineer's judgement

RE: Looking pretty tall

i was struck by "luxury finishes ... being replaced with upgraded finishes" ... how much more upgraded can you get ? or are they down-grading luxury to upgraded ??

RE: Looking pretty tall

They got the extra money to upgrade the luxury finishes when gasoline topped $4 a gallon.

RE: Looking pretty tall

It is amazing the number of buildings proposed/under construction that will be reaching heights of 500+m.  I remember reading a paper by Bill Baker who explained the use of what he termed the "buttressed core", essentially a tripod-like structural system that enabled them to go supertall.

This system seems very similar to Bob Holverson's "braced spined" that will enable the Russia tower to reached extreme heights as well.

Maybe the three-winged approach is the way to go when it comes to designing the supertall buildings.

By the way, does anyone know what is the next tallest building?   

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What sort of framing is used for this type of construction and is it concrete framed of steel framed?

Amazing what man has done.

RE: Looking pretty tall

I think it is a concrete structure.

The construction tollernces were a big concern, they went to the extremes to make sure they had it truely vertical. A variation on 1/16" to 1/8" per floor could be a disaster, but concrete allowed corrections to minimize the load and eccentricity effects. The Italians in Pisa were the first to discover the effects, but this tower is not built on muck.

If it is anything like the hotel ($2500/night minimum), I am sure the upgrades are really that since they build show pieces for the international business traveler.

I was in the hotel and would love to see the tower when completed. I also would like to see the indoor ski hill with snow making.

Dick

RE: Looking pretty tall

civeng80,

Both. The first 130+ floors are concrete while from 600+m onwards it switched to steel construction.  Basically there are problems with pumping concrete to such heights so it was designed to be completed with steel-framing.  A friend of mine who was in Dubai recently took a photo of the builders kibbling the last of the concrete pour up to a height of 600m.

If you can get a hold of a high quality photo, you will actually notice there is no scaffolding around the floors underconstruction or the plant levels, all part of the Dubai construction practice of building massive buildings on reclaimed land, let's just hope in 10 years time there will enough people to fill all these hotel rooms under construction.  Ski resorts in a desert subject 50C (120F) temperatures just doesn't seem sustainable to me, particulary when you consider the water supply relies on desalination.

Now CCTV in Beijing, there is an engineering masterpiece.

Like Mario Salvadori said, who would go and see the straight tower of pisa.    

RE: Looking pretty tall

DubaiLand is a vulgar display of wealth.

RE: Looking pretty tall

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Nice shots Lutfi!

 

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