States That Do Not Require PDHs for Professional Engineers
States That Do Not Require PDHs for Professional Engineers
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Can anyone provide a reference that clearly identifies what states do NOT require a professional engineer to earn professional development hours as a requirement of licensure? I know that Massachusetts does not require PDHs, but I don't know how many other states waive this requirement as well. Any insights?
Maui
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1) Because they are licensed in other states that require them.
2) Because it's only a matter of time before AZ does.
3) You'd be an idiot not to pursue continuing ed just because you don't HAVE to.
--Scott
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^For the win.
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In any case, the general answer is no. There may be other reasons for having one, since it would still be a positive element in this academic's resume.
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I would also like to see a rule/regulation that requires anyone teaching a junior-level or higher engineering course to be a PE. Not that the PE makes us special, it is just that kids don't need to be learning engineering from people who haven't practiced it (and they are "holding themselves out to the public as engineers").
David
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I think the issue most people have with continuing ed is how much money it costs to go to formal conferences.
I would do a lot more courses if they werent so expensive, but I do get just as much out of reading technical journals, something which many states will not allow you to include in your pd hours.
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These things are recognised in other countries (such as Australia and the UK) as valid pdh.
Also, in Australia there were after work seminars put on every month for as little as $10, why are US professional asociations not doing this?
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However, some states allow credits just for membership in various professional organizations such as the ASCE, ACI, ICBO, etc, and you never have to go to a meeting, just pay the membership fee. I guess because of the name of the organization the boards assume that we will learn something thru long-distance osmosis. I just know that I learn a lot more here than paying for a stupid membership certificate to hang on my wall.
There is inequity and illogic in the present system. Unfortunately, that's a given. There needs to be a common standard to level the playing field, opportunities, and expectations.
Mike McCann
MMC Engineering
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As far as expenses go, there are plenty of things that count for PDH without having to attend long seminars or conferences.
The local chapters of NSPE have a monthly lunch or dinner meeting. $20 a head and 1 PDH if you stay and listen to the presenter. There are many others as well.
If you do something for continuing ed that is not recognized by the board, petition the board to include it. I've known people that do CAD training - a half-day presentation on the features of a new version - and get the board to recognize it as PDH.
--Scott
http://wertel.eng.pro
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Reading journals counts, but the number of hours you can claim is capped. Writing journal articles counts. Even participation in Eng-Tips.com counts, but it is also capped.
Last year I had over 150 hours of stuff that counted towards my 15 hour requirement. Documentation is key, they may never audit you, but if they ever do and you have claimed hours that aren't documented properly, you'll lose your license for an ethics violation.
David
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It is also frustrating because of the differing requirements. Renewal times are staggered from state to state. Some states require so many ethics hours, some require technical only, some allow self-study, some don't, etc. So it turns into a bookkeeping mess as well.
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BTW- Online courses are fairly cheap. Check out PDHonline and I think Vector is another one. Just do a Google on PDH for Engineers.
Have fun!!
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