P&IDS
P&IDS
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Can anyone suggest reference material for P&IDs and PFD development?
Thanks.
Thanks.
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RE: P&IDS
P&ID - it a "learn on the job" thing i believe.
Best Regards
Morten
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(used to be called the Instrumentation Society of America)
http://www.isa.org/
Try, http://www.isa.org/isastore/isastore.cfm?CFID=594501&CFTOKEN=97815253&Store=15&SubStore=0&ContentType=6&StaticPage=bynumber.html
You can download ANSI/ISA-5.1-1984 - (R1992) - Instrumentation Symbols and Identification for about US$60.
Cheers!
RE: P&IDS
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Have a nice one
Buchi
Buchi
RE: P&IDS
RE: P&IDS
It is better for you that review some drawings and BASIC DESIGN DOCUMENTS and a PFD of a certain process and then review it's P&ID with it's process description documents and for having more feel about the designed process , studying document of Control Philosiphy or Control Strategy is very useful for you .
RE: P&IDS
PID is learnt on the job.
Lay your hands on the PID for any of process plant in your company.
Get the Symbol and Legend Sheet - it gives you the meaning or definition of the different symbols used in PIDs.
Either get a more experienced person to explain the intention of the plant or what the plant is designed to achieve or read the plant design manuals to understand the operating philosophy.
Lay your hands on API-14C to give you an appreciation of the reasons behind the safety device introduced or shown on the PID.
Also start to get yourself to understand how the different process equipments shown on the PID operate. In addition understand how the instruments shown on the PID operate. Read textbooks, handbooks or course materials to give your understanding of how they work.
Good luck
RE: P&IDS
why dont u start with the following
1 - "richardson & coulson, vol6."
2 - "project engg. for process plants"
bye
ag
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http://www.boeing.com/companyoffices/doingbiz/edaas/pdf/D38559-7-3a.pdf
http://www.acusafe.com/Newsletter/Stories/0700News-AmmoniaRefrigPID.htm
Regards
Steven van Els
SAvanEls@cq-link.sr
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Instrument Society of America (or whatever their latest reincarnation is)
Attn: Stnadards Department
67 Alexander Drive
P.O. Box 12227
Research Triangle Park, NC 27709
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http://www.manufacturing.net/ctl/index.asp?layout=articleWebzine&articleid=CA152141&pubdate=8/1/2000
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Another way to have a feel of a P&ID is to lay your hands on the "control narratives" of an oil/gas facilities which can be one of the project deliverables, although it might be prepared by the clients some times. using this alongside the P&ID will make you appreciate the rationale for different instruments. understanding the functions of these control devices is a good percentage of understanding the P&ID.
good luck
Buchi
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For new processes, the development process often begins with developing a simple "functional block diagram" which spells out in narrative form the operations you want to perform on the media being processed, the input specifications and product specifications. Starting with a block diagram is nice in that it doesn't prematurely steer you towards one flow logic or another until after you've got your ducks in a row. But this is just my preference.
For processes I'm quite familiar with, such as oil and gas separation or compression processes, I'll dive right into the PFD or P&ID.
At the end of the day, the P&ID like many other engineering drawings, is a communication tool as well as a configuration control tool.
A lot of people don't really understand what a P&ID is. I've seen companies hand their shop a P&ID and say "build it". (g) The P&ID is NOT a design or fabrication drawing. It is an engineering drawing which is used as a primary point of reference for the design process. It's also a great operational and training tool.
Good luck!
Tom