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Mirrored Opinion
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Mirrored Opinion

Mirrored Opinion

(OP)
If Person-1 said that Person-2's opinion mirrors their own, would that mean the opinions are opposite?

cheers

RE: Mirrored Opinion

My understaning is no.  It means they have the same opinion.

I think it's the idea of looking in a mirror and seeing yourself, not the idea that images in a mirror are reversed.

KENAT, probably the least qualified checker you'll ever meet...

RE: Mirrored Opinion

Mirror image is exactly the same but inverted.

RE: Mirrored Opinion

(OP)
Kenat ... I've always taken it to mean "the same", but after seeing it in print this morning, it struck me that the actual wording could be taken both ways.

civilperson ... lol  Please don't try to confuse me more than I already am. That's like saying something is exactly the same only different.
BTW, inverted normally means reversed vertically (upside down) not reversed horizontally (mirrored).

I will have to, umm, reflect more on this.

cheers

RE: Mirrored Opinion

It is just your perception that is inverted, the left arm is still on your left, your right arm is still on your right, your brain just interprets it as another you facing back at you and that gives the perception issue.

As for the OP, this is a very good point but I would take it to mean that they agree.

RE: Mirrored Opinion

  This is why we include a note on part drawings where the drawing also applies to a mirrored part.  Gotta spell out that it is the very same thing, only opposite.
  I feel a headache coming on...

Believe it if you need it or leave it if you dare. - Robert Hunter

RE: Mirrored Opinion

My understanding mirrors Kenat's.

RE: Mirrored Opinion

No fair Mint, I was about to make a joke along those lines, now I'm mirroring you.

KENAT, probably the least qualified checker you'll ever meet...

RE: Mirrored Opinion

I've never used the term in that way.  If in a discussion, it is hard for me to imagine what a mirrored opinion is?  

Person1: "I think right turns are safer than left turns."
Person2: "Your opinion mirrors my own thoughts."
Person1: "You think left turns are safer to make?"

Matt Lorono
CAD Engineer/ECN Analyst
Silicon Valley, CA
Lorono's SolidWorks Resources
Co-moderator of Solidworks Yahoo! Group
and Mechnical.Engineering Yahoo! Group

RE: Mirrored Opinion

fcsuper,

I think you completely misunderstand, here is a reference to explain what a mirror is:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirror_image


smile2

I always think it is a bit of a weird paradox that the left and right sides are mirrored but up and down are still the same. I understand why, but it still seems kinda weird.

RE: Mirrored Opinion

I just realised that this was probably started by my post. I didnt even remember that i typed that.

RE: Mirrored Opinion

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So why don't you see your feet at the top and your head at the bottom? Is it only a inversion around a vertical axis?

JMW
www.ViscoAnalyser.com

RE: Mirrored Opinion

csd, you must have mirrored your own opinion.

ewh, Do you really say the part is mirrored?  In buildings, we say it is "opposite hand".

RE: Mirrored Opinion

Opposite hand - does that mean that they need to weld it with their left hand instead of their right?

RE: Mirrored Opinion

Yes, we have ambidextrous welders in Australia.

RE: Mirrored Opinion

I always look sinister in my mirror.

- Steve

RE: Mirrored Opinion

Curious thing about mirrors, and women......

My wife can never pass a mirror without some prolonged study of this problem of image nversion.

Now I'll stand in front of the mirror raise my right hand and the image will raise its left and then I'll raise my left foot and it'll raise its right and then I'll raise my other foot and fall over.
If I fall to the right, the image will fall to its left. But when I lying on my side on the floor and I raise my left leg it raises its right leg; you can't fool it into raising its right arm in response simply by rotating your axis of symmetry relative to the mirror.

My wife is far more obsessed with this problem, I've noticed,  and uses a range of far more sophisticated tests that usually take most of the day.
She'll try a whole series of symmetry experiments such as trying on different clothes, hats, make-up etc. Sometimes she'll just fool with her hair. Then she'll try on a pair of shoes obviously bought for the experiment as I have never seen them before (and as often as not they'll then be abandoned in the cupboard along with hundreds of other test shoes) and study them in the mirror. Then she'll change just one shoe and stare into the mirror for some time before trying various combinations. Somehow I think she has developed some strategy to solve the image inversion problem that requires countless combinations of clothes and shoes and gloves, I just wish she would apply for a research grant.

Now I've every respect for an enquiring mind but this always takes place just when we're late for being somewhere. We've missed planes because of this.

Then one day I discovered something frightening; my wife has begun to take on the characteristics of a mirror.
I discovered this by chance one day when we were in a restaurant. As we left the table and she was putting on her coat, I noticed she had a piece of food on her left cheek and, casually, as you do to avoid drawing everyone else's attention as well, I made a gesture of wiping a piece of food off my left cheek and she reached up and wiped her right cheek. I then raise my right hand an cleaned an imaginary piece of food of my right cheek and she raised her left hand and cleaned of the piece of food. I was stunned by this.
Then I raised my left foot... then I raised my right foot and fell over. My wife called me a drunken bum.
But this frightened me.

Some time later when my nephew came round to see us, this is not something you take outside the family, we were sitting down to eat and I raised my left hand to wipe an imaginary piece of food off my left cheek and he lifted his left hand to wipe his left cheek.

But every so often  repeat the test on my wife. The result is always the same, I stand in front of her and I raise my left hand and she raises her right hand..... I get frightened and now when she calls me a drunken bum she is usually right....
I am very troubled by this because she continues to to experiment with the mirror image problem and it is taking her over. Has taken her over.
What worries me even more is that I see many women obsessed by this problem and forever making excuses to go look in mirrors but I am too frightened to try the test on other women (how would I explain to my wife if she caught me doing it?). actually, I don't know which frightens me more, that she alone has been inverted into her own mirror image or that all women have....

But what started out as a harmless puzzle about image inversions in mirrors has taken a sinister new direction and I am now studying image inversion in my wife. It is an obsession. I spend hours every day staring at her and trying different things. The funny thing is, she doesn't seem to mind my staring obsessively at her all day long..... except when there is a mirror at hand.

JMW
www.ViscoAnalyser.com

RE: Mirrored Opinion

(OP)
rofl Excellent observations, JMW!

cheers

RE: Mirrored Opinion

I wonder if, in fact, men and women are like those sugars that show rotational asymmetry - dexter and lavo rotatory structures (trust food chemists to mix Greek and Latin) and whether she started life lavo rotatory and changed to dextro rotatory or whether she was this way all along.

I'd like to extend my investigations but I have noticed that while my wife is happy to be the object of my investigations she is far from happy when i start to stare obsessively at other women.

I wonder if she is trying to stop me discovering something about other women. Perhaps those of you who are male engineers could report our findings....?

I've noticed that my wife likes to hang mirrors all round the house and that next to shoes, she is an obsessive mirror shopper. She also spends a lot of time looking at her reflection in shop windows, usually shoe shop windows, and then she goes inside the shop and is gone for some time.... I don't know if you've noticed this but shop windows don't have a silvering and this isn't something you can do with mirrors.
I guess she is just a very sophisticated researcher... Does anyone remember Harry Worth? he had an experiment with shop windows that required an observer... he'd stand half way into in a shop doorway so that the half of him you could see was reflected in the window making up an apparently whole image. Then he-d raise his left arm and leg and the image would raise its right arm and leg and the composite image would apear to raise both arms and both legs together without falling down.... I wonder if I can achieve this without mirrors.... I think I need some more coffee.

You can see Harry's experiment here:
http://www.whirligig-tv.co.uk/tv/adults/other/harryworth.htm

JMW
www.ViscoAnalyser.com

RE: Mirrored Opinion

Having found the Harry Worth video clip my wife came into see why I was laughing hysterically. I showed her the clip. Silly, but there you are.
She laughed. Then she said "Oh, he can do that with just one leg? We can try that", she said.
Now, I am not laughing and I am now looking for something to put in my coffee. This is obviously going to involve a lot more shoes.... and shoe shop windows.

JMW
www.ViscoAnalyser.com

RE: Mirrored Opinion

I couldn't remember who Harry Worth was till you mentioned the mirror and then it came flooding back.

Star for making me chuckle jmw.

KENAT, probably the least qualified checker you'll ever meet...

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