The effect of internal pressure on a hollow cylindrical column.
The effect of internal pressure on a hollow cylindrical column.
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I have a drill string that has an internal pressure. Along with this internal pressure they are going to compressing this string by pulling from the top. I know how to calc the critical load, and critical stress for 0 psi. Does anybody know of a method for determining the effect of internal pressure on the critical load of the column ? It is a fixed free, short column. The cross-section of the string is hollow circular(pipe).





RE: The effect of internal pressure on a hollow cylindrical column.
Trying to guess, I would reason as follows.
The calculation of the critical load is based onto a moment equation, the moment being that of the load with respect to column axis when deflected. Now this moment is unaffected by the pressure inside the pipe, so the conclusion is: the critical load is unaffected.
Another phenomenon to be considered is a possible change of the internal volume of the pipe due to the post buckling deflection. If the pipe is closed (not a piston), this change in volume would cause a change in pressure (depending also on the compressibility of the fluid) that would influence the critical load.
Just by gut feeling, I would say there is no change in volume, so no effect of pressure. However for a relatively thin pipe, the deflection would cause some ovalization, and cannot exclude that this would influence the critical load a bit.
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RE: The effect of internal pressure on a hollow cylindrical column.
RE: The effect of internal pressure on a hollow cylindrical column.
RE: The effect of internal pressure on a hollow cylindrical column.
Column buckling is due to the following phenomenon. When the column starts to buckle, the deflection will have two effects: one is the elastic energy due to bending stored in the bar, the other one is the shortening of the column again due solely to the bending deformation, that will need a work to be done by the load.
When the elastic energy equals the work done, then the instabilty occurs.
As you see the axial stress in the column, contrary to what one would expect, has no role to play, that's why I think that the buckling load is independent of the internal pressure (or possibly with a very low dependency due to secondary phenomena).
If the buckling could be caused or initiated by a local instability, then the internal pressure would help in avoiding that. However this would be true particularly for thin cylinders, but I don't think you have a very thin one with that pressure.
However all the above is true for the so called elastic instability. When the plastic one is controlling (and I recall now that you mentioned a short cylinder), then you could be on the right path, as the plasticization of the section under the axial compressive load will not start, until the axial stress due to pressure has been overcome (provided your pipe is end capped).
However I'm not able at the moment to provide definite design suggestions for this. Of course you should account for a loss of pressure when an axial load is still acting. Also you should check that local yielding does not occur where the stress due to pressure is not present (cylinder ends).
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RE: The effect of internal pressure on a hollow cylindrical column.
RE: The effect of internal pressure on a hollow cylindrical column.
Here is a link to the test of a U.S. Patent awarded for a structural member made to reduce buckling using precisely this approach. As a bonus, at the end, he goes through the calculations showing the effect of the internal pressures in increasing the critical load of the column. Hope this helps, and good luck.
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RE: The effect of internal pressure on a hollow cylindrical column.
RE: The effect of internal pressure on a hollow cylindrical column.
RE: The effect of internal pressure on a hollow cylindrical column.
sorry, but can't agree at all with what you state.
Will you please revise my arguments above, where I state, in essence, that, for buckling to occur, an external load tending to shorten the column is required indeed, but the presence of compressive stresses in the column section is not required.
That patent is, in my opinion, simply phantasy and cannot work (like perhaps many other patents granted all around the world).
Would it be possible for you to indicate a bibliographic reference for what you state?
This problem is an interesting one.
By the way, MechSwampEng, sorry, I'm not so sure of what I stated above concerning the plastic buckling, as the phenomenon of instability remains the same, simply the formulae are no more the same, as Hooke's law is no more valid. Plastic buckling doesn't mean at all, as I implied above, full yielding of the cross section under the axial load.
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RE: The effect of internal pressure on a hollow cylindrical column.
RE: The effect of internal pressure on a hollow cylindrical column.
Of course this situation is completely theoretical and for the sake of discussion and further confusion. If this sounds like a problem that someone is having, please don't site me as a viable reference.....
RE: The effect of internal pressure on a hollow cylindrical column.
However, buckling failure is not because the material yields. The column under load fails in buckling because it becomes unstable and can no longer hold the load without a small lateral deflection. The load stays constant, but the column's bearing capabilities decrease with deflection, so there is a feedback loop and the deflection rapidly becomes larger and larger. The column can end up yielding in a buckling situation, but it can also buckle and not yield. Just squeeze a thin rod of metal slightly axially. You can make it buckle, then release it and it returns to normal. The two failure modes aren't the same mechanism.
prex makes a valid point in that the Euler buckling equation pretty much states that the critical load is a function only of the geometry of the part and its stiffness. The only way I can see for pressure to affect the critical load without changing geometry is to somehow change the effective stiffness of the system. However, I don't know if that's possible and since my argument was not based on that, it is invalid for this discussion.
prex is also correct about looking at that patent application very critically. It seems as if he may have made the same mistake I did because he talks both of buckling and of superposition of loads.