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There, Their, They're
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There, Their, They're

There, Their, They're

(OP)
Ok, I know they are different, I know which to use when but, for some reason lately I keep getting it wrong.  I re-read a post or email and I have the wrong one.

What's going on, have my typing fingers discovered a mind of there they're their own?

Anyone else have any grammar, spelling etc. faux pas they keep making even though they know it's wrong.

Anyone fixed it?  Maybe make yourself write it correctly a 100 timeswinky smile.

KENAT, probably the least qualified checker you'll ever meet...

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Know, not I.

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knot eye

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I feel affected by your plight, but it doesn't really effect me.

"Art without engineering is dreaming; Engineering without art is calculating."

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They're taking their stuff over there...

old field guy

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"There" contains "here".  A differenT HERE.

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I make not only typos but writos.  Brain's somewhere else by the time my hands get to maknig the words.  Usually it's word swaps, but the other day I left out a crucial comma, making an illiterate-sounding run-on sentence.  Mortifying, I tell ye.

Hg

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Please may I join the club?  Believe it's just old-age setting in.

A.

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I seen what he did and I taken out after him.

Mike McCann
McCann Engineering

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...can you give me a summery of your summary day in Florida?  

Tobalcane
"If you avoid failure, you also avoid success."

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Fuzzy-wuzzy wasn't a bear bare.

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What is the principal reason why you have brought up this principle problem?

JMW
www.ViscoAnalyser.com

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What record, originally recorded with a multi-track recorder holds the record for record sales?

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en français:

Le ver vert vers le vers sur le verre vire.

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You can record on a record, thought I have never recorded the  use of a record recorder.

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I do.  Very common for me to type the wrong word, even as I visualize the correct one.  I just chalk it up to my dyxlexic tendancies.  I don't spell words wrong as much cuz of MS Word has helped me fix that issue...so my errors evolved into the one weakness of MS word: not knowing the wrong word is being use.

Matt Lorono
CAD Engineer/ECN Analyst
Silicon Valley, CA
Lorono's SolidWorks Resources
Co-moderator of Solidworks Yahoo! Group
and Mechnical.Engineering Yahoo! Group

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(OP)
Oh yeah, I can play the dyslexic card.  I even have the letter saying I'm dyslexic from University.  (You know the one that entitled me to 25% more time to stare blankly at the exam paper winky smile)

Thank you fcsuper.  As for the spell check, yup the word is spelt correctly, it's just the wrong one.

And thanks to all else for responding in more or less the vain (or vein, hmm) this was intended.

KENAT, probably the least qualified checker you'll ever meet...

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For me, "Loudspeaker" always comes out as "Loadspeaker" whether writing or typing. I have to think very carefully everytime I write it. It got to be a real problem when writing my doctoral thesis. In the end I added it to autocorrect!

Another one is "Ratio" that always comes out as "Ration" (only when typing, not writing)

Odd.

M

--
Dr Michael F Platten

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Yeah, I often type that extra "n" on "ratio" too.

That's just muscle memory, there are so many words ending in "ion" that your fingers just anticipate it and do the deed before your brain can stop it.

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I've found some fingers are faster than others when typing and so it isn't just getting the wrong word but then getting the letter order jumbled up, usually when I am in a fine flow and these errors, so rudely pointed out by Big Bill disrupt my thinking.

JMW
www.ViscoAnalyser.com

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And then there is making the correct keystrokes, but with your hand placement shifted a key on the keyboard.

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The number of times I've type in "vf" instead of "cd" on my workstation!

I can never type reference either (that took two goes).

- Steve

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Yeah, reference has a lot going on with the first two fingers of the left hand.

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You should try a Swiss/German keyboard.  The y and z are switched.

Zou don't realiye the problem until zou trz to tzpe anzthing sensible.

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As far as typos, I seem to always (90%) type "teh" instead of "the".  I'm glad I have a spell checker.

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One of my ex-classmates has to switch off the autocorrection from teh to the because his surname is Teh and word keeps on changing it to The!

I did ask him to change dialect.  Teh in a different dialect is Cheang or Ch'ng - doesn't need auto correction then.

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Someday I'll learn how to type aluminimum... alluminimum... until then, let's hear it for spellchecker!

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Can anyone think of any engineering term more commonly mis-typed than "trials"?

A.

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(OP)
I never have any trouble with trails.

As for Aluminium, even if you spell it right, if in the wrong country it's wrong.

KENAT, probably the least qualified checker you'll ever meet...

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my typing problem is yuo - nearly every time I type yuo - opps you it comes out yuo

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Oops

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so it must be the "o" finger causing the problem

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Quoting Artisi "my typing problem is yuo - nearly every time I type yuo - opps you it comes out yuo", I have exactly the same problem - 'you' ALWAYS comes out as 'yuo' for me.  I've always put this down to dyslexic fingers and I'm happy I'm not alone.

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Please, let no one post that Cambridge report about comprehension again, post a link if you (yuo) must but please, not again.smile

JMW
www.ViscoAnalyser.com

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I am thinking allowed ....

I typed something like that on a bulletin board earlier today and only noticed it just now. It is superior to this bulletin board - you have an hour to correct mistakes before content is frozen. I prefer bulletin boards where you can correct your own posts as often as you like.

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As I get older and wiser, I find I notice even the smallest errors when made by others,  while I miss the big errors I make.

Then again, since I'm getting wiser, I'm becoming errror free, wright?


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corect.

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I regularly type 'fro' instead of 'for'. The spell checker doesn't pick it up, of course. So what's the spell checker fro anyway?

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I truly horrified myself the other day with a writing error. I am young enough to be fully au-fait with the operation of predictive text messaging on a mobile phone, but thankfully old enough for my language not to have descended into the meaningless drivel that is "text speak".

On the occasion in question, I was writing a short note with a pen and paper (old-school) and I found that instead of the word I had wanted to write, I had written the word that usually comes up first when trying to write that word using the predictive text messaging on a mobile phone (e.g. writing "riots" instead of "pints").

Is there any hope for me?

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I was just starting to get there and their right...your telling me there is a third one? SOB!!!

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(OP)
Yep, 3 read ‘em & weep.

"They're putting their coats over there."

I seem to recall this being the example sentence at school.

So far I seem to be keeping its and it's on track but how long till that goes to pot is anyone’s guess.

(Do me a favor though Gymmeh, don't use SOB.  I can handle pretty much any insult to me but say something about my mum and the adrenaline starts to pump, even when I know it's in jest!)

KENAT, probably the least qualified checker you'll ever meet...

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Ah.  A clear case for reverting to the old convention of punctuating abbreviations with plenty of full-stops.

A.

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(OP)
Oh yeah zeusfaber, I guess it could have been S.O.B. or sob as in cry/tears but in capitals for effect.

I assumed former, if latter then ignore my last paragraph.

KENAT, probably the least qualified checker you'll ever meet...

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(-.-) = *SOB!  
I am sobbing because I think the family of There,Their,they'er so frusterating.

I guess capital sob may not be understood as extreem sobing

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Quote:

I was just starting to get there and their right...your telling me there is a third one? SOB!!!

smile
I've just had an attack of the 'yaws'.
What's yaws?
Thanks, I'll have a pint.

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(OP)
Doh, sometimes I'm so darn dense.  Apparantly now I don't just mis-type it I miss it in sentances.

Did I mention I'm dyslexic...

KENAT, probably the least qualified checker you'll ever meet...

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My "with the" often comes out "withe".  Ought to be legal as a contracted form....

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Who was it who said "There is no their, there."?

MadMango: I play a recorder, and I record my recorder to see if I am "recording" well.

Mintjulip: Would that be Les Paul's "Waiting for the Sunshine"? i.e. Guitarist Les Paul, the multitrack recording pioneer.

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I almost got ambushed by Microsoft's autocorrect on this one:

"... I need to get your approval of ..."

I accidentally hit the space bar after the "a" in approval. MS quietly changed the "your" to "you're" but didn't change it back when I hit the backspace key. I barely caught it before sending the email, and had to undo numerous times to figure out what had happened. Add that to the long list of MS quirks to be aware of.

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Thank you SLemin for an excellent link. I put this in my favorites also.
 Just between you and me, I cringe whenever I hear or read the increasingly popular "Just you and I" or Just between you and I".
This link clarifies the subject vs. object use of I and me, just the way I was taught in English class.

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Type proper like wot I does

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I've added the link to my favourites too.

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Well, I thought I'd give the speech to text feature a try and spent a little while setting it up. You know, the training thing where you familiarise the software with your voice and speech patterns by reading extracts of Big Bill's second edition something or other to it.

I am pleased to say Microsoft can't spell any better than I can. Worse, maybe.

I use English UK spelling and I dictated:
"It is now thought that sulphur emissions in the Mediterranean are lower than previously reported."
Microsoft thought for moment and then typed:
"It is now thought that sulfur emissions in the Mediterranean are lower than previously reported."
Spell checker had thoughtfully squiggly underlined "sulfur" in red to let me know that "speech to text" had gotten its spelling wrong and I then had to go and correct the spelling back to "sulphur" for it.
Duh!

JMW
www.ViscoAnalyser.com

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It wasn't always so.  I live in the town of "Sulphur" in Louisiana, USA.  It was named before the "sulfur" spelling became the standard.

old field guy

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MadMango:  I am sooo happy to learn that I am not alone with teh problem.

I also mix up the same 2 letters when typing my last name about half the time.

Guess the problem is called getting old.  

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"Sulphur"

It must have taken someone all day to think up that name.

- Steve

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Steve--

Yeppers!  The place used to be a major producer of elemental sulfur using the Frasch process for extraction from salt domes.  so the town gets named "Sulphur" and we have schools and parks named "Frasch".

Since the sulfur got depleted, the salt domes now provide brine for a major chlor-alkali facility and also for storage of petroleum and natural gas.

Fun stuff!

old field guy

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I'm not sure this is the right thread. Anyway...
Lately I got from a message from a friend with his new electronic address as e-male rather than e-mail.

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25362:
 If you had put a there, their, or they're in there somewhere, it would have been the right thread. winky smile

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Interestingly the speech to text program has a real problem with their, there, they're.
But, at least I now have an excuse.

JMW
www.ViscoAnalyser.com

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....there they,re in charge of their own destiny.

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Up there, their air is the rare fare.

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An interlude for an audio example:
This came up on the Richard and Judy Show (a UK chat show; I was visiting my aged parents).
Two comedians (literally, one appears in the Royale Show, whatever that is, no idea what the other does).
They were driving to a gig in Wales somewhere and were stopped by the police.
The driver decided his best bet was to meet the policeman half way (good advice in the UK but possibly contra-indicated in the US where the police might just shoot you, just for the hell of it, if you so much as move your hands).

The following dialogue is between a Brit and a Welsh Policeman so you must imagone some difference in accents.
The policeman, watching his approach, said "You're staggering, sir."
"You're not bad yourself." replied the comedian somewhat off balance by this opening gambit.
The Policeman decided to ignore this and said:
"I stopped you because you were driving at 70mph in a 40mph zone."
A pause for effect then:
"What would you do, Sir, if Mr. Fog came down?"
"I put my foot on Mr. Brake." replied the comedian.
"I'll say that again Sir." said the policeman patiently, "What would you do if mist or fog came down?"

JMW
www.ViscoAnalyser.com

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"Sorry about the F in Fog".  A classic statement made by a UK weatherman years ago when a letter "F" moved on a weather picture during a forecast.

- Steve

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I don't have one that I make often, but one that bothers me to no end is when someone uses "lose" and loose" interchangably.  

You can't loose the race!!!!!  For the love of God!!!

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I cannot stand it when people get it wrong with their, they're, there; loose or lose. What happened? Talk about sweating the small stuff....Do I need regressive therapy? Who did this to me?

I always say engineers should not be allowed to write. Safest that way. We should stick to drawings, numbers and smugly pointing out the obvious with pipe in our mouth, so we don't say anything stupid as well.
 
Me granda', a yorkshire coalminer down the pit 52 years, ooh aye taught me that.  
   

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