Smart questions
Smart answers
Smart people
Join Eng-Tips Forums
INTELLIGENT WORK FORUMS
FOR ENGINEERING PROFESSIONALS

Member Login




Remember Me
Forgot Password?
Join Us!

Come Join Us!

Are you an
Engineering professional?
Join Eng-Tips now!
  • Talk With Other Members
  • Be Notified Of Responses
    To Your Posts
  • Keyword Search
  • One-Click Access To Your
    Favorite Forums
  • Automated Signatures
    On Your Posts
  • Best Of All, It's Free!

Join Eng-Tips
*Eng-Tips's functionality depends on members receiving e-mail. By joining you are opting in to receive e-mail.

Posting Guidelines

Promoting, selling, recruiting, coursework and thesis posting is forbidden.
Jobs from Indeed

Link To This Forum!

Partner Button
Add Stickiness To Your Site By Linking To This Professionally Managed Technical Forum.
Just copy and paste the
code below into your site.

Oakley45 (Mechanical) (OP)
17 Jan 08 19:31
I need to determine the shear stress of a bolt in single shear and a bolt in double shear, is the equation

Shear stress = force / cross sectional area

The bolt in question is a m10 bolt, class not known yet although will be 8.8 or 12.9, force applied on threaded section so overall diameter of bolt assumed to be 8.5mm

for single shear divide by two?

How would I go about determining the safety factor?

BTW Im putting a 400N load throught this bolt in single shear, its not constant its that max possible load, any input?

Thanks
rb1957 (Aerospace)
18 Jan 08 7:46
wait up ... you're shearing over the threads ?

conventionally, with a bolt shank in double shear, your effective area is twice, but there is a knock-down if the middle layer (the distance between these two shear faces) is small ... MIL-HDBK-5 has factors (table 8.1.2.1(b)) ... give the geometry and i'll look it up for you.

but i don't like shearing over the threads
CoryPad (Materials)
18 Jan 08 9:00
400 N is a ridiculously small force going through an M10 screw with property class 8.8 or 12.9.  This calculation is irrelevant.

Regards,

Cory

Please see FAQ731-376: Eng-Tips.com Forum Policies for tips on how to make the best use of Eng-Tips Fora.

Oakley45 (Mechanical) (OP)
18 Jan 08 11:30
distance between the two shears is 10mm,

need to do the calc just to confirm to myself that its suitable

thanks
rb1957 (Aerospace)
18 Jan 08 11:56
with the middle layer being about a diameter, the bolt would be fully effective in double shear.

400N is a very small load ... i not that towards the end of your post you start mentioning "single shear" ... i assume the bolt is in double shear 2*400N (still a small load for a 3/16" bolt.  i would knock-down the allowable to account for the threads (some sort of stress conc.).
Gymmeh (Mechanical)
18 Jan 08 13:59
My book shows M10 Class 5.8 to have a proof strength of 380MPa...
Oakley45 (Mechanical) (OP)
19 Jan 08 19:26
how do you determine the shear stess of a bolt? I have determined the shear stress for the situation so I now need to know if the fastener will take it. thanks
hydtools (Mechanical)
19 Jan 08 20:14
Look here for info to determine shear stress and factor of safety on a bolt:
http://www.roymech.co.uk/Useful_Tables/Screws/Bolted_Joint.html

Material properties
For 8.8:
ultimate stress = 830 MPa
yield stress = 660 MPa

For 12.9:
ultimate stress = 1220 MPa
yield stress = 1100 MPa

Ted

hydtools (Mechanical)
19 Jan 08 20:33
Correction to my previous post.

The material properties are material strengths, not stresses.

I apologize for the misnomers.

Ted

proinwv2 (Mechanical)
20 Jan 08 14:31
I hate to add this, but then again maybe I don't.

If the assembly is not very tight and the clearances not close then there may be added bending stresses to consider.

Of course if it is tight enough and depending upon the arrangement, then there may be no shear stress because friction is transferring the load.

My point is that when someone asks such a basic question, oh so basic, then we should be careful that answers that seem to be correct may be misleading because the person that asked it was not competent to ask it properly.

Paul
www.ostand.com

Oakley45 (Mechanical) (OP)
20 Jan 08 16:45
right single shear situation

method

determine the force acting on the bolt, divide this by the area of the bolt to get the shear stress that will be acting in the bolt.

now determine a bolt class to use 8.8 12.9 etc, take the tensile yield stress, now 60% of this is the shear yield stress, divide this by the bolt diameter used above and you get the value the bolt will shear at.

is that correct?
how do i go about determining the safety factor?
wahoo88 (Mechanical)
20 Jan 08 17:24
Oakley,

To determine the safety factor, divide the yield or ultimate strength of the bolt (in MPA, or psi), by the calculated stress in the bolt (in the same units).  So for your situation, assuming single shear, threads not in shear, m10, class 8.8 bolt:

           .6(660 MPa)
SFy = ----------------------  = 77.6
        400 N / pi(5 mm)^2

           .6(830 MPa)
SFu = ----------------------  = 97.8
        400 N / pi(5 mm)^2

Andy
rb1957 (Aerospace)
21 Jan 08 6:42
wahoo88 ... in his 1st post he says, "threads in shear".  but then i was confused with him mentioning "double shear".

i think proinwv2 brings up some good points.
Gymmeh (Mechanical)
21 Jan 08 9:23
I recommend getting your hands on  or have your company buy you - Mechanical Engineering Design by Shingley.

As wahoo points out, you have nice safety factors over 75 with the design.

I am with proinwv, I really want to help but...
For a basic bolt analysis this seems well over designed, is there more to this situation that requires extra strength?, Is fatigue a major consideration? ... Knowing the application or governing regulations really can affect the problem and solution.

Best Regards





6060842 (Mechanical)
22 Jan 08 13:43
Hi

I always use

As = P/A = P /(Pi*Db^2/4)

As = Average Shear
Db = Diameter of bolt (Minor Dia)
P = Load

A good reference on bolted connections is to go with the procedures defined in VDI2230 - Systematic calculation of high duty bolted joints. This is a document drawn up by the German Society of engineers - Not free but well worth a gander


Tom
EngineerTex (Mechanical)
12 Jun 08 18:01
Shear is not distributed uniformly across a cross-section when a beam (a bolt in this case) is loaded in bending.  

I would follow Gymmeh's advice to purchase Shigley's book on mechanical engineering (Shigley & Mischke, published by McGraw-Hill).  

Here's where the fundamentals come into play.  The reason that we generally don't have to apply Mohr's circle or diddle around with Von Mise's equation when we're dealing with combined bending and shear in this particular beam is that shear is a maximum in the center while bending stresses are at a maximum at the outside edges of the beam.  Check both.  

However, shear stresses in beams distribute themselves in a manner that is not evenly loaded like tensile stresses applied axially.  The maximum shear stress for a round beam is found along a plane perpendicular to the direction of loading, passing through the cg of the beam and is as follows:

tau(max) = 4V/3A (for a round beam)

Also, remember that your shear yield strength (as wahoo88 pointed out) is not the same as your tensile yield strength.  I calculate shear strength to be 0.577*Sy.  But even that is open to debate.   
dimjim (Mechanical)
12 Jun 08 18:23
I recommend getting your hands on or have your company buy you - Mechanical Engineering Design by Shingley.

Shingley should be Shigley.  I now that is what you meant.

 
Gymmeh (Mechanical)
17 Jun 08 11:45
Yes that is correct. sry my bad.

Reply To This Thread

Posting in the Eng-Tips forums is a member-only feature.

Click Here to join Eng-Tips and talk with other members!

Close Box

Join Eng-Tips® Today!

Join your peers on the Internet's largest technical engineering professional community.
It's easy to join and it's free.

Here's Why Members Love Eng-Tips Forums:

Register now while it's still free!

Already a member? Close this window and log in.

Join Us             Close