Interesting Material Failure
Interesting Material Failure
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I have also posted this in the Welding forum.
We are doing some remedial work to a structure that is approx 40 years old. The steel used is specified as A36, but we have not confirmed this.
The structural Tees are welded to a bulkhead (all around)and cracks have developed in the flange on either side of the web. They appear to be intermittent and in some areas extend approximately 4' from the end. The span of the ST is approximately 10'. The cracks also appear to have initiated at the bulkhead. Loading is relatively high and the hydraulic load is applied to the thin plate at the bottom shown in the Detail Elevation. There is also a slight vibration that may have initiated a fatigue type of failure as well as the steel being subjected to zero degree C /32F temperatures. Welding appears to be sound and has a good appearance with no apparent 'splattering' or inclusions.
We are in the process of obtaining additional testing information to determine the full extent of the cracking as well as the depth; we don't know if the crack is the full depth of the flange, yet.
We are thinking that the cause of the cracking is from a triaxial stress condition caused by welding the ST all around to the bulkhead.
Any comments or suggestions?
We are doing some remedial work to a structure that is approx 40 years old. The steel used is specified as A36, but we have not confirmed this.
The structural Tees are welded to a bulkhead (all around)and cracks have developed in the flange on either side of the web. They appear to be intermittent and in some areas extend approximately 4' from the end. The span of the ST is approximately 10'. The cracks also appear to have initiated at the bulkhead. Loading is relatively high and the hydraulic load is applied to the thin plate at the bottom shown in the Detail Elevation. There is also a slight vibration that may have initiated a fatigue type of failure as well as the steel being subjected to zero degree C /32F temperatures. Welding appears to be sound and has a good appearance with no apparent 'splattering' or inclusions.
We are in the process of obtaining additional testing information to determine the full extent of the cracking as well as the depth; we don't know if the crack is the full depth of the flange, yet.
We are thinking that the cause of the cracking is from a triaxial stress condition caused by welding the ST all around to the bulkhead.
Any comments or suggestions?






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Can you give a bit more information about how the tees have been loaded? I am not sure what you mean by the hydraulic load being applied to the thin plate. Are the tees stiffeners for the bottom of some sort of tank?
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Also, at the flange/web intersection there is, I think, the highest amount of residual stress due to milling.
But the fact that the cracks are in the flanges (which are thicker) and not through the web (which is thinner) might be a big defining clue.
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The loading on the ST is from the thin plate on the bottom and the force is in an upward direction. This thin plate acts as a 'bottom flange' for the ST.
The crack is running parallel to the direction of maximum stress.
JAE
The high stress at the fillet area of the flange-web was one of the reasons I was thinking of a triaxial stress initiated failure caused by the all around fillet weld.
Thanks, any other thoughts?
Dik
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Cracking observed is in the lower ST's is more pronounced and these are submerged for the most part. I'll have to check this out to see if it is possible or if there is a correlation to the location of the failures and thermal issues. In the spring, the lower plate is exposed to sunlight and can likely reach temperatures of about 90 degC. Thanks...
Dik
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Mike McCann
McCann Engineering
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There could be mechanisms at play that I'm not familiar with. I'm also quizzing the testing tekkies...
Dik
Dik
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Also, the ST may stay at a more even temperature and thus want to move less during weather fluctuations because of the insualting effect of the thermal mass of whatever is contained below. Any, just a thought.
How exposed is this assembly, and where is it located?
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The assembly was shop fabricated and welding was not a problem. The welds are actually quite well done from a visual perspective.
The ST's are essentially stiffeners for the bottom plate and there is no gas flowing through the assembly. The assembly is raised in the spring time for a few weeks/months? and for the balance of the time, it is submerged in water.
Dik
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The reason I ask is that many Tees are merely W shapes that have been cut in half horizontally. Hence the connection would be integral as it would be a rolled section - no welding.
Just thinking...
Mike McCann
McCann Engineering
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I had another thought at 5AM... When the ST's were initially cut, they may have distorted and been straightened (by means of a fiddler or by heat); this could have set up internal stresses, aggravated by the welding.
Also have to chase down the possibility that the intersection of the web and flange, caused by the rolling process, gives rise to 'false' positive cracking.
Dik
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Good to see that someone else thinks about curious things like this while they sleep.
I withdraw my suggestion that this was a shear failure due to lateral loading. I did the numbers, and the shear stress would have not been very high when the flange would have yielded in bending.
I still suspect that somehow ice formation and the resulting 4% expansion of water could be the culprit, but not knowing more about the history, I don't know. Could the cracks be due to bending of the flange in the transverse direction?
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Dik
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Dik
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I assume from what you've written that the loading puts the top of the "T" section in tension. Poisson's ratio would tell you this section wants to contract, but the weld at the end of the section is restraining if from doing so, resulting in tension across the section (perpendicular to the cracks).
Not clear to me why the welding was done all-around on that part of the section, vs. just two welds down both sides of the vertical part of the T. You want to transfer the shear stresses from the T-beams into the end plates, and most of the shear is being carried by the vertical leg of the T (web?) and not the top cap?
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The top of the tee is in tension as you have noted. The end weld to the bulkhead/frame does constrain it a bit, but shear stresses (in a plane parallel to the web) are so low as to preclude cracking. In addition, it has been determined that the cracks do not go through the flange; they are approximately 1/4" deep.
I'm just formulating a rough draft of some 'head scratchings'...
Thanks, Dik
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Dik,
Do let us know what you find out eventually. Interesting problem.
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I will... still having a problem wrappin' my ears around this. I'll be meeting with a NDT tekkie this afternoon to go out and locate a few sample areas to take coupons. Hopefully looking at the crack may give some information. If it's not too badly corroded, then possible britle fracture, fatigue and shear failure.
I've forwarded some ramblings... not a formal report outlining some of the possible means of failure (not sure it's a classic failure, since the cracking may not have an impact on the behaviour of the structure). I've also indicated that the cause has not been determined, yet, since the cracking is 'odd'. I've learned that the tees have been subjected to a fairly intensive vibratory load with 'modelled' pressures varying from 23' of head to about 18' of head over a sustained period... a month or so each year for 40 years. I'll see if bug spray really works <G>.
btrueblood:
At one area tested with mag particle, the cracking is intermittent along the full 11' of the structural tee.
Dik
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We have received additional information about the cracks; they are very shallow, about 0.2 mm deep. We are awaiting some sections to examine the crack surface as well as info on the material and chemical properties. Cracking of the welds was not observed at any location.
There is a good chance that my 5am ramblings may be the cause and that cracking was present from day 1.
Dik