design/product/project engineer title meanings
design/product/project engineer title meanings
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What are the main diffences between these job titles (most specifically for a mechanical engineer)? My 1st engineering job title was "Product Engineer". I ended up being a DRE (Design Responsible Engineer). I basically wrote validation test plans, pushed to get the product validation tested, and wrote reports. I did very little design work.
Thanks,
Kurt
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Kurt





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Chris
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Thanks,
Kurt
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Thanks,
Kurt
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Some important things should be do you enjoy your job, the company treats you fairly, & you're respected by your coworkers.
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ME I and ME II probably do the exact same thing, one just has more experience, typically 2yrs vs 4yrs.
"Art without engineering is dreaming; Engineering without art is calculating."
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Basically they try and fit all jobs into a certain number of categories which then correspond to a pay scale.
Apart from the fact that ME II will probably be a slightly higher pay scale than ME I they are almost meaningless. They certainly don't explain what you'll be doing day to day etc.
If you look at some salary sites their job descriptions use these titles.
My official ranking is something like CAD Engineer IV which bears almost no relation to what I actually do.
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I don't dislike Labor Categories, as they have little to no bearing on what we do or how we operate.
What I DO dislike is how labor categories are used withing our vacancy announcement system.
The company's "boilerplate" labor cetegory description has so much BS that it's meaningless. I do have the opportunity to add "position specific" test, but this appears at the end of a very long paragraph, with no separation or distinction. A candidate needs to read all they way through physical fitness and "lifting" requirements before they can see if I'm seekin an ME, a EE, or a software engineer (in the case of the various engineering categories).
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The group's name was consisten though.
"Do not worry about your problems with mathematics, I assure you mine are far greater."
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- Steve
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My favorite is when folks put "Sr. Engineer" on there email signature. Which usually means you have anywhere from 2 years to 40 years of experience and may or may not have a degree or a license...
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I think I was made a senior engineer in 1984, 2 years out of uni, and that's what I've been at every company since then.
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It may be like this in theory and practice, but in real life it is completely different.
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1 Development engineer
2 Senior Development engineer
3 Project engineer
4 Senior Project engineer
5 Principal engineer
6 Manager/Technical specialist
7 Senior manager
8 Technical director
Which seems fairly sensible and straightforward. I could never (and still cannot) get to grips with the scale at one of the big car companies (with a big centre near Basildon). My contacts there seem to be promoted every year but never appear on any org charts.
- Steve
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In my experience, those managers typically have no technical skills whatsoever (and fewer common sense skills). Like so many things that float through the sewers, these people also tend to float up to the top. Since getting something through them and into production takes wading through three levels of manager, rarely is the effort worth trudging through.
I truly hope you're lucky enough, as I am now, to have management positions above you filled by engineers (practicing, mind you, not the kind that completely trade their mathematical skills in for a career of counting beans) and not by what my cynical mind makes me believe is the norm.
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The accountant types kick in above level 8, thankfully. Those who use words like "city". Yikes. Everyone from 8 down is or has been an engineer.
But the grading system for us plebs has recently changed. We now have C,D,E,F, where F is what 6 used to be. I think it's to do with killing off the overtime culture, but those are just my thoughts.
- Steve
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(And now for the five degrees off center metaphor of the day)
Putting them together is like mixing Bailey's Irish Cream and sweetened lime juice. Sure, they each make tasty drinks of their own, but if you mix them, you get something that doesn't flow well and makes you want to throw up.
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At my present employer I am a senior engineer. They never mentioned what class. I am sure its low considering there are guys here with the same title and have 20 years of experience on me. Doesn't give me warm thoughts when I think about getting a promotion. Maybe I will get a raise out of changing to a II ;)
What really bothers me is that my job function will never change. No matter what the title. Supervisors do the same job we do.
But I have had lots of titles. Design drafter, senior drafter, designer, mechanical designer, engineer, mechanical engineer. there is probably 5 or 6 more. In the end I don't think they were all that much different.
Do what we say not what we do ;)