SW08 Strange graphics and crashing problems
SW08 Strange graphics and crashing problems
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I have been having problems with assembly files that open fine sometimes and other times open in a low resolution or cause SW to crash. None of the problems are consistant from file to file nor do they always appear in the same files. I can open an assembly that looks low rez and then open a sub-assembly and it will look great. I tried to set the resolution for "all parts" with the assembly in the tools settings and my OpenGL check box is now checked and grayed out.
I have a Dell 690 with a Quadro FX 4600. The SW site lists the approved driver for the Dell as ...9777 but for the same card under nVidia as ...9778. I have 9777 installed as a suggestion from my VAR.
Any suggestions would be appreciated. The crashing and slow rotation speed with the SpacePilot is a drag. Thanks.
I have a Dell 690 with a Quadro FX 4600. The SW site lists the approved driver for the Dell as ...9777 but for the same card under nVidia as ...9778. I have 9777 installed as a suggestion from my VAR.
Any suggestions would be appreciated. The crashing and slow rotation speed with the SpacePilot is a drag. Thanks.
Harold
SW2008 SP1.0 OPW2008 SP0.0
www.lumenflow.com






RE: SW08 Strange graphics and crashing problems
Jeff Mirisola, CSWP
Certified DriveWorks AE
http://designsmarter.typepad.com/jeffs_blog
Dell M90, Core2 Duo
4GB RAM
Nvidia 3500M
RE: SW08 Strange graphics and crashing problems
Harold
SW2008 SP1.0 OPW2008 SP0.0
www.lumenflow.com
RE: SW08 Strange graphics and crashing problems
Jeff Mirisola, CSWP
Certified DriveWorks AE
http://designsmarter.typepad.com/jeffs_blog
Dell M90, Core2 Duo
4GB RAM
Nvidia 3500M
RE: SW08 Strange graphics and crashing problems
Harold
SW2008 SP1.0 OPW2008 SP0.0
www.lumenflow.com
RE: SW08 Strange graphics and crashing problems
Have you tried disabling your SpacePilot driver? You may be having a driver conflict issue.
Jeff Mirisola, CSWP
Certified DriveWorks AE
http://designsmarter.typepad.com/jeffs_blog
Dell M90, Core2 Duo
4GB RAM
Nvidia 3500M
RE: SW08 Strange graphics and crashing problems
My PC: Dell Precision PWS690
Xeon CPU 5160 @3.00GHz
2.99GHz, 3.25 GB of RAM
Win XP Pro 2002 SP2
nVidia Quadro FX4600
SW is 2008 SP1.1 32 bit
OW is 32 bit for 32 bit, SP0.1
SpacePilot
MS "Natural" 6000 Mouse
To what extent do I need to disable the Pilot to test your theory? Shutdown the PC and unplug or a complete uninstall?
Harold
SW2008 SP1.0 OPW2008 SP0.0
www.lumenflow.com
RE: SW08 Strange graphics and crashing problems
Jeff Mirisola, CSWP
Certified DriveWorks AE
http://designsmarter.typepad.com/jeffs_blog
Dell M90, Core2 Duo
4GB RAM
Nvidia 3500M
RE: SW08 Strange graphics and crashing problems
I disabled the driver. The graphics in the main assembly were lousy so I opened the tools/options etc and changed the setting to apply to all parts (again even though I had checked it before) and the OpenGL grayed out. Enabled the driver w/o restarting and SW crashed when I tried to re-open the assembly after deselecting OpenGL. Did a quick search at 3D Connections and Google for driver conflicts and came up empty unfortunately.
Harold
SW2008 SP1.0 OPW2008 SP0.0
www.lumenflow.com
RE: SW08 Strange graphics and crashing problems
Jeff Mirisola, CSWP
Certified DriveWorks AE
http://designsmarter.typepad.com/jeffs_blog
Dell M90, Core2 Duo
4GB RAM
Nvidia 3500M
RE: SW08 Strange graphics and crashing problems
Harold
SW2008 SP1.0 OPW2008 SP0.0
www.lumenflow.com
RE: SW08 Strange graphics and crashing problems
Beyond that, I don't know what to say.
Jeff Mirisola, CSWP
Certified DriveWorks AE
http://designsmarter.typepad.com/jeffs_blog
Dell M90, Core2 Duo
4GB RAM
Nvidia 3500M
RE: SW08 Strange graphics and crashing problems
I wish the crash were more repeatable so that it would be easier to capture. Thanks again for the tips. I'll send my VAR and OW techs appropriate emails about the issues I am seeing.
Harold
SW2008 SP1.0 OPW2008 SP0.0
www.lumenflow.com
RE: SW08 Strange graphics and crashing problems
Thought I should update in case anyone else is having problems with Add-ins, etc. Thanks again Jeff.
Harold
SW2008 SP1.0 OPW2008 SP0.0
www.lumenflow.com
RE: SW08 Strange graphics and crashing problems
Jeff Mirisola, CSWP
Certified DriveWorks AE
http://designsmarter.typepad.com/jeffs_blog
Dell M90, Core2 Duo
4GB RAM
Nvidia 3500M
RE: SW08 Strange graphics and crashing problems
The IntelliPoint package that comes with the Microsoft mouses (mice) ((mices)) definately causes conflicts in SW that appear to be graphics issues.
Cheers,
Anna Wood
SW 2007 SP4.0, WinXP
Dell Precision 380, Pentium D940, 4 Gigs RAM, FX3450
http://designsmarter.typepad.com/solidmuse
http://www.phxswug.com
RE: SW08 Strange graphics and crashing problems
Thanks again.
Harold
SW2008 SP1.0 OPW2008 SP0.0
www.lumenflow.com
RE: SW08 Strange graphics and crashing problems
Harold
SW2008 SP1.0 OPW2008 SP0.0
www.lumenflow.com
RE: SW08 Strange graphics and crashing problems
Create a block, save and close SolidWorks. Then reopen SolidWorks and open the part1.sldprt.
Do not move the mouse for 2 minutes. Does SolidWorks crash with MS asking to send file?
Bradley
SolidWorks Pro 2008 x64 SP1.1
PDM Works, Dell XPS Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU
3.00 GHz, 5 GB RAM, Virtual memory 12577 MB, nVidia 3400
RE: SW08 Strange graphics and crashing problems
There are plenty of times my mouse is stationary and SW doesn't crash. Conference calls, working in the lab, stuff I'm supposed to do.... The only message that comes up is that SW needs to restart. Nothing from MS. Are you thinking it's the IntelliPoint still?
Harold
SW2008 SP1.0 OPW2008 SP0.0
www.lumenflow.com
RE: SW08 Strange graphics and crashing problems
Several of our computers would crash within 2 minutes.
To fix our problem we are disabling indexing Service in services.msc in the Start, run dialog.
Also we disable Windows Search in services.msc in the Start, run dialog.
When we start SolidWorks we have both boxes in PDMWorks Workgroup 2008 unchecked in Add-ins. Then when we start SolidWorks we have to turn on the PDMWorks Workgroup 2008 “Active Add-ins” button only. We do not ever start PDMWorks Workgroup 2008 when starting SolidWorks automatically anymore. Only the manual turn on.
Our SolidWorks 2008 sp1.1 does not crash at all for about an hour now.
Our VAR told us this is an issue they are working on with SolidWorks. The VAR came up with this workaround.
Bradley
SolidWorks Pro 2008 x64 SP1.1
PDM Works, Dell XPS Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU
3.00 GHz, 5 GB RAM, Virtual memory 12577 MB, nVidia 3400
RE: SW08 Strange graphics and crashing problems
Thanks again.
Harold
SW2008 SP1.0 OPW2008 SP0.0
www.lumenflow.com
RE: SW08 Strange graphics and crashing problems
Are you using Lotus Notes?
Bradley
SolidWorks Pro 2008 x64 SP1.1
PDM Works, Dell XPS Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU
3.00 GHz, 5 GB RAM, Virtual memory 12577 MB, nVidia 3400
e-mail is Lotus Notes
RE: SW08 Strange graphics and crashing problems
Harold
SW2008 SP1.1 OPW2008 SP0.1
www.lumenflow.com
RE: SW08 Strange graphics and crashing problems
Bradley
SolidWorks Pro 2008 x64 SP1.1
PDM Works, Dell XPS Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU
3.00 GHz, 5 GB RAM, Virtual memory 12577 MB, nVidia 3400
e-mail is Lotus Notes
RE: SW08 Strange graphics and crashing problems
Harold
SW2008 SP1.1 OPW2008 SP0.1
www.lumenflow.com
RE: SW08 Strange graphics and crashing problems
Robin
ps. I'm running SW2008 on a 2GB RAM MacBook Pro under Parallels. Amazingly, it works fine, though slows down for larger drawings so I'm getting another PC with a hot rod video card. It runs at least as fast as the year old windows laptops around here. Anyway, don't let anyone tell you it won't work!
RE: SW08 Strange graphics and crashing problems
Unfortunately the crashes are still happening. The only pattern I notice is that it happens when opening an assembly, not a part, and not a sub-assembly from within an assembly tree, and not a drawing. It also does not happen twice in a row. At least I'm not losing any data.
Harold
SW2008 SP2.0 OPW2008 SP0.1
www.lumenflow.com
RE: SW08 Strange graphics and crashing problems
Use Logitech Mice I've never had any problems with those. The Side Scroll Mouse wheel ones are especially nice.
Also removing the unnecessary tasks is great most of them start with MS or have unintelligible names. you can also use msconfig to remove items from the Start tab so they don't auto launch. Sometimes the mouse drivers will use settings like MMB = Auto Scroll which can cause funky behavior so make sure it's set to Middle Button.
Another thing that comes to mind might be the Preselect or Dynamic Highlight options causing issues. Maybe using the Selection Filter may help especially in Assembly mode.
Michael
RE: SW08 Strange graphics and crashing problems
I have to say the I really like the ergonomics of the MS Natural mouse. Between the mouse and the SpacePilot my wrists/forearms have never felt more relaxed.
Harold
SW2008 SP2.0 OPW2008 SP0.1
www.lumenflow.com
RE: SW08 Strange graphics and crashing problems
Harold
SW2008 SP2.0 OPW2008 SP0.1 Win XP Pro 2002 SP2
Dell 690, Xeon 5160 @3.00GHz, 3.25GB RAM
nVidia Quadro FX4600
www.lumenflow.com
RE: SW08 Strange graphics and crashing problems
Dell Precision PWS490
Intel Xeon CPU 2x5140@233GHz
4.00 GB RAM
nVidia Quadro FX3500 with latest SW certified driver
Microsoft Windows XP Pro x64 Version 2003 SP1
Microsoft USB Wireless Intellimouse Explorer with basic Windows driver
SolidWorks 2008 x32 SP2.0
Installed SW2008 a week ago. No problems, no crashes so far. I love it.
RE: SW08 Strange graphics and crashing problems
Changes made including the suggestions in this thread were:
Latest 3DConnections drivers
Uninstalled the IntelliMouse software
Disabled the Windows search
Updated my nVidia driver from the SW recommended 9777 to 6255 per my VAR
Ran the Conversion Wizard (twice)
Installed SP3.0
I am starting SW with my Add-in "on" and I am still using my SpacePilot although the special characters are not working correctly (to be fixed I understand).
Life is good.
Harold
SW2008 SP3.0 OPW2008 SP0.1 Win XP Pro 2002 SP2
Dell 690, Xeon 5160 @3.00GHz, 3.25GB RAM
nVidia Quadro FX4600
www.lumenflow.com