Who's responsible for locating Borings?
Who's responsible for locating Borings?
(OP)
Who's responsibility is it to locate borings for a geotechnical investigation? The geotechnical engineer or the EOR? I see the EOR taking on liability he/she locates them.
I have a geotech who won't drill unless we provide recommended boring locations. We've never seen anyone require this in our office before. Does it sound fishy?
I have a geotech who won't drill unless we provide recommended boring locations. We've never seen anyone require this in our office before. Does it sound fishy?





RE: Who's responsible for locating Borings?
ask the geotech why he is being so fussy
RE: Who's responsible for locating Borings?
RE: Who's responsible for locating Borings?
If/when I get a request from an engineer to perform a geotechnical engineering study and the request includes a boring location plan, I ignore the boring location plan and make my own. I then call the engineer making the request and we discuss the two different programs. Sometimes, one of the borings is for a concern that is justified and I'll add it to my program, other times it just makes no sense. I will not formulate my geotechnical engineering recommendations on a program designed by others, unless they happen to get it right (at least from my perspective).
Next question: What defines an "engineer of record"? The reason that I ask is there is no doubt a civil engineer of record and a structural engineer of record and they may pinpoint a different set of borings, based on their experience and what they believe to be important. It's the responsibility of the geotechnical engineer to interpret the needs of both these engineering disiplines and provide a report that speaks to earthwork, foundations, pavements slabs on grade, etc.
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RE: Who's responsible for locating Borings?
At my firm, our civil engineers of record don't correspond with the geotechnical engineer who's writing the report....therefore, defining EOR is fairly simple for us.
RE: Who's responsible for locating Borings?
ASFE has alot of information on this topic. Their mission is loss prevention for the folks in the geosciences. For a geotechnical engineer to "require" a structural engineer to provide a boring location plan is just rediculous. I'd seriously consider calling another geotechnical engineer.
Is this job anywhere near Virginia - I'll help.
Good luck.
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¡papá gordo ain’t no madre flaca!
RE: Who's responsible for locating Borings?
RE: Who's responsible for locating Borings?
Zero borings. now you only have to pay for report preparation. maybe you can get more of a discount if you supply them a draft of the report to sign.
RE: Who's responsible for locating Borings?
i'm picky about certain projects or project types and i gladly answer questions as to why i'm picky when someone asks. so ask the question to the geotech.
RE: Who's responsible for locating Borings?
However, if the geotech is saying "tell me where to drill" then as has been stated above, I would find another geotech.
RE: Who's responsible for locating Borings?
As for in the field, it depends on the project. If it is a preliminary investigation where specific building locations are not known, I use a hand held GPS to establish and identify boring locations. Lat and Long. coordinates carry through with time and can translate to final project drawings. If the borings are specific to building corners or individual structures, I will ask the project surveyors to stake the borings or the structures.
RE: Who's responsible for locating Borings?
"team" usually lasts until it goes to litigation.
you seem to have an assessment similar to mine of how it all works/should work. i have had instances where i tried to provide help to the team but due to the parties involved, the "team" mentality is left far behind...so you end up taking the "cover the butt" position and work from the neck down as directed.
and there are some jobs where "tell me where to drill" is pertinent...in those instances, i am merely obtaining the field data to provide to someone else for the assessment.