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Roadwork (Civil/Environme)
3 Oct 07 12:58
How can I get a drawing border template to show up in model space? I'm a new user, running AutoCAD 2006, and when I open a drawing template, which is a preinstalled sheet border (e.g. 11" x 17", or ANSI B), it only shows up in paper space. I've tried saving it under a different name, and I still can't get it to show in model space. I'm sure this is a simple fix. Can someone assist?
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Helpful Member!lpseifert (Civil/Environme)
3 Oct 07 13:12
I don't know why you'd want to but you can use the Chspace command to move entities from paper to model space. Or try copy/paste (Ctrl+C/Ctrl+V).
IMO...titleblocks and such belong in paperspace; model space should be for design elements only.

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Roadwork (Civil/Environme)
4 Oct 07 8:17
OK, our CAD expert told me it was possible, but couldn't show me how to do it. I think he's just been downgraded, from CAD expert to CAD person.

I have no problem with what you said, and it is consistent with what I've heard from others, but if I do my design work in model space, how do I then open a preinstalled border and get it to "wrap around" my drawing. I have done the trial & error method, where I just keep moving/adjusting my drawing in model space until it fits nicely in my paper space border, but is there an easier way?

BTW - as you can imagine, my usage of AUTOCAD is limited to non-complex, small scope stuff (at least for now).
taffcad (Mechanical)
4 Oct 07 8:55
Surely the point of a template layout is that it is drawn to papersize and saved as DWT then open it up and you scale the viewport in PS showing your model at the selected scale.  Or am I missing something. Always willing to learn.

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Helpful Member!francesca (Civil/Environme)
4 Oct 07 14:51
Insert --> Layout --> Layout from template

Make sure your template has a Viewport in it, or add a viewport to your drawing (View --> Viewports --> 1 Viewport).

Enable the Viewports toolbar (right-click on the toolbar area, ACAD --> Viewports).  

Double-click inside your viewport (or click where it says PAPER in the status bar) to activate model space and then pan to where you want to be in your model.  If necessary, right-click and go to 3D Orbit to rotate your view.

Double-click outside your viewport (or click where it says MODEL in the status bar) to activate paper space. Click on your viewport and then select the appropriate scale from the Viewports toolbar.

The main benefit to using paper space correctly is that you can activate model space and use layer control to freeze layers for that viewport only.  That way, you don't have to reset your layer selection every time you print a different drawing, you just set your viewports correctly, turn all layers on as a fail-safe, and use batch plotting to plot all your sheets.
Roadwork (Civil/Environme)
5 Oct 07 8:10
Excellent! Thank you Francesca - just what I needed. I got the idea, however, I stumbled on another question in the process. If I have two viewports open at the same time, how do I turn one of them off?
Roadwork (Civil/Environme)
5 Oct 07 8:19
Nevermind - I figured it out. Thanks again!

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