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ôREFERENCE DRAWINGSö vs. ôREFERENCED DRAWINGSö

ôREFERENCE DRAWINGSö vs. ôREFERENCED DRAWINGSö

ôREFERENCE DRAWINGSö vs. ôREFERENCED DRAWINGSö

(OP)
On the drawings you often see title “REFERENCE DRAWINGS” and then drawing list. Grammatically correct it should be “REFERENCED DRAWINGS”, shouldn’t it?
Thanks,
IV

RE: ôREFERENCE DRAWINGSö vs. ôREFERENCED DRAWINGSö

I don't think so.  A "Reference Drawing" is one that relates in some way to the drawing in question, while a "Referenced Drawing" would be one which is specifically cross referenced.  I don't think it a matter of grammar, as either is correct, but there is a subtle difference in the meaning.

RE: ôREFERENCE DRAWINGSö vs. ôREFERENCED DRAWINGSö

Agreed, there is a subtle difference in meaning.  However, it's common to see the two words used interchangeably.  The diffeence is more obvious with"advance" and "advanced", similarly used interchangeable by many.

"Advance warning" is an imperative statement commanding a warning to advance itself.  As such it should be followed by an exclamation mark (!).

"Advanced warning" is a polite notice of a future disruption given so as not to surprise people.

RE: ôREFERENCE DRAWINGSö vs. ôREFERENCED DRAWINGSö

Typically they are drawings 'for reference'.  

If you explicitly say 'look at grid C2 of xxx-yyy-zzz' or even 'to meet the requirements of xxx-yyy-zzz' then it could be a referenced drawing.

Oh, and I haven't seen it that often on drawings in the way you describe, on various other types of documents, but not drawings.

KENAT, probably the least qualified checker you'll ever meet...

RE: ôREFERENCE DRAWINGSö vs. ôREFERENCED DRAWINGSö

In "Reference Drawings", the word "Reference" is an adjective modifying a noun, describing the drawings as to what kind.

In "Referenced Drawings", if my English does not escape me, the word "Referenced" is a Gerund, denoting some form of mild action on the word "Drawings".  It also implies an action of referencing in the past, which may or may not be true.

As you are pointing out additional drawings used to back up the information on the drawing containing the note, these drawings are considered references. So they are "Reference Drawings".

Mike McCann
McCann Engineering

RE: ôREFERENCE DRAWINGSö vs. ôREFERENCED DRAWINGSö

"In "Reference Drawings", the word "Reference" is an adjective modifying a noun, describing the drawings as to what kind."

In a title of a drawing, as per the OP I would agree to this interpretation. However in other types of documents such as instructions or SOPs, it is often a command or instruction, that you must reference the drawings listed for a full understanding of the document.

Example from an instruction I just finished working with this morning: Reference Drawing XXXXXXX.X for valve configuration on .........

RE: ôREFERENCE DRAWINGSö vs. ôREFERENCED DRAWINGSö

True, but I would clarity it further by saying "refer to..."

Mike McCann
McCann Engineering

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