Penetrating containment wall around hydrocarbon tankage?
Penetrating containment wall around hydrocarbon tankage?
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I'm working on a project where the engineers want me to penetrate the masonry containment wall of a diesel with a fill line. Now if this was a dirt berm type containment wall I know we can't do that ...could compromise the integrity in an earthquake. BUT I don't know if this holds true with a masonry wall? The engineers (young, REAL young) say "No Problem" but I have that gut feeling.
Can anybody give me some direction on this?
Can anybody give me some direction on this?





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My basic gut feeling is still to go over the wall or under it.
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You can always paint it artistical,
whatever.
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So do you think I need to continue to be worried?
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That sleeve is not just a sleeve. Fire resistant, etc.
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Among other loads and forces described in the same pp 301 appear.. Earthquake and Movements
301.5.3 Earthquake. Piping shall be designed for
earthquake-induced horizontal forces. The method of
analysis may be as described in ASCE 7 or the Uniform
Building Code.
301.8 Effects of Support, Anchor, and Terminal
Movements
The effects of movements of piping supports, anchors,
and connected equipment shall be taken into account
in the design of piping. These movements may result
from the flexibility and/or thermal expansion of equipment,
supports, or anchors; and from settlement, tidal
movements, or wind sway.
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