Makeup of typical engineering departments.
Makeup of typical engineering departments.
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Just curious.
What is the percentage of women to men in your engineering department/group?
What is the percentage of women to men in your engineering department/group?
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I can think of 2 actual female engineers. Probably about 30+ engineers in total.
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We have about 100 engineers. We have brought in about 25 new graduate engineers in the last 5 years (during which time we probably lost 30 engineers for various reasons).
About 8 of those new 25 engineers were woman and about 4 of them are left. Of the 75 or so in engineering more than 5 years, none are women.
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And there in lies the rub
Kevin
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Kind of depressing really...
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It seem like structural (I am just going by the industry everyone has beside their handle) is the most integrated at 50/50 and 6/18. And the rest is really far behind.
Oh, at my current place, also 0%.
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I can also say, structural seems to be far ahead?
With regards to the target value, yes, I am using 50/50. No reason. Just a target.
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That sounds like a good topic for a "New" posting?
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I don't see how you could ever have 50/50 in the workplace if schools are not graduating 50/50.
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It doesn't say if the 20% is historic or if it has increased a lot in the last generation so i wouldn't walk away with the interpretation that 50% of women can't get work with their degrees. perhaps, the actual employed will go up but always be behind the school number for a time lag.
The point the NAE is pushing is to increase the 20% to 50% by encouraging girls to pursue engineering careers and promoting engineering as a gender neutral career. Obviously, they're doing a great job at it since the engineering community (you) doesn't know it's going on. :)
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I don't see why any push to make any career 50/50.
So long as there isn't any kind of rules or effort to actually keep any gender disparity then what career different sexes choose should be left up to them.
Now I know not having many colleagues the same sex might put people off a career but where do we stop?
Didn't the Supreme court just make a ruling on positive discrimination?
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if you're talking about gender-based public funded scholarships its another thing altogether. Likewise with gender-based enrollment priority in public colleges.
When you finally get around to looking for money to go to college, you've already gone considerably down the path and will probably work something out (and if you can't needs based is still there).
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14/121 company wide
0/24 EE & only 1/14 I&CE
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In all of R&D it drops to something like 15-20%
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What does your immediate group do - if it is not proprietary?
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We're structural, but on the construction/fabrication side. Over on the design side, much more women.
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I've never felt that way or experienced anyone else sharing that opinion.
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In the UK at least engineering recruitment is heavily pushed by the universities, the more people they can get out of low paying Arts courses into big ticket itmes like Med and Eng, the more money they make per student.
Or is that cynical?
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At my last place in the UK we had 0 female Engineers but did have a female document controller and a female project acountant who were technically part of the Design Office so with a total staff of low double figures we had about 20%.
Last I heard they had actually recruited a female engineer, but they lost the project accountant before I left so still only around 20%.
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We still haven't cleared up why we should (should we?) aim for 50/50.
Is there anything "unfair" in a 10/90 women/men ratio? As long as the percentage of women employed = the percentage of women who apply for jobs (assuming everyone is equally qualified), nothing is unfair. We would not employ female engineers out of some kind of pity, while they could have been lawyers and made much more money, would we?
I guess more women means more diversity (at least as long as the percentage << 50%), assuming diversity is a good think we would want to have more women, but who says 50/50 is the optimum ratio in an engineering dept?
I guess male engineers would also be interested in seeing more women around for less politically correct (biological) reasons (after all even engineers are only humans and therefore animals) but in that case again why 50/50 and not something like 90/10?
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thread730-193099: Men/Women Staying in Engr, maybe we're the fools may be more appropriate but even there some people will get upset by these kind of opinions.
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I got told to "stay on topic" also. This is a powder keg waiting to blow.
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As indicated above, opinions, comments and reasons on what the ideal split is, why, and etc, are probably best served in the other thread:
Men/Women Staying in Engr, maybe we're the fools
thread730-193099: Men/Women Staying in Engr, maybe we're the fools
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