NVIDIA GeForce 8800
NVIDIA GeForce 8800
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I am looking online at a GeForce graphics card with an nvidia chipset. It has 640mb of ram and cost around $380, much less than a comparable Quadro.
Is there a reason these cards wont play well with SW?
Is there a reason these cards wont play well with SW?






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Pete
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SW07-SP3
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Pete
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Nvidia's really got a good scam going here.
Jason
UG NX2.02.2 on Win2000 SP3
UG NX4.01.0 on Win2000 SP3
SolidWorks 2007 SP2.2 on WinXP SP2
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Pete
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TS3D HOOPS is fully compatible with the new Microsoft VISTA. Do you consider VISTA a good platform for design software?
I think some of the early reports about CAD software problems on Vista are really a result of the natural lag in technology compatibility and not an accurate view of the Vista platform [see more on this topic at WorldCAD blog]. We can really only speak to the graphics portion of that question, rather than memory usage, system resource allocation, etc. but our opinion is that the performance issues being reported are almost entirely related to the fact that the vast majority of design applications use OpenGL for graphics acceleration.
Today, the OpenGL drivers on Vista-ready graphics cards are still quite immature. While OpenGL will be well served on Vista as these issues settle out, it also appears clear that Direct3D is the future for Vista and beyond. Our early tests are indicating that using Direct3D that is 100% shader-based will provide significant performance benefits... so we will see design software migrating to driving Direct3D over time - while still wanting to support OpenGL for their customers using Windows XP.
As developers migrate to being able to drive Direct3D in a shader-based mode they will be more than happy with the graphics capabilities of Vista.
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Pete
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Jason
UG NX2.02.2 on Win2000 SP3
UG NX4.01.0 on Win2000 SP3
SolidWorks 2007 SP2.2 on WinXP SP2
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In my opinion, the true downside of using the unsupported cards is that they are just that, unsupported. When you have problems with crashes or most anything else, one of the first things your VAR, or the people on this forum will ask is “What card are you using and which version of the driver?” If you answer is not a certified combination, you will generally be told that it is likely a problem with the display drivers, and to switch to a certified solution.
You do not have to place much value on your time before it makes sense to bight the bullet and use a certified card, even though it costs more or the performance specs are less.
Eric
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My Geforce 6800GT screams along just fine in Solidworks. I just can't use Realview cause suppossedly the Geforce card doesn't support the OpenGL shaders. Thats BS.......it does....its just turned off.
People hacked the older Geforce cards with drivers to fool it so nVidia made hardware changes to the newer cards to prevent it.
Not everyone can afford the expensive Quadro card....especially at home. I had a Quadro FX500 cards but try playing Battlefield 2 or Doom 3 on that......wasn't happening. So I can pay $250 for the Geforce 6800GT or shell out $1500+ for the Quadro 4000 which is the same card.
Jason
UG NX2.02.2 on Win2000 SP3
UG NX4.01.0 on Win2000 SP3
SolidWorks 2007 SP2.2 on WinXP SP2
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Pete
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nVidia and ATI - as well as all the ISVs - invest million$$ to provide high-performance drivers for professional applications for a relatively small potential market. Using SoftQuadro is piracy, plain and simple and nVidia is right to protect their intellectual property. (It's the software that you're paying extra for - not the hardware.)
Quadro FX and FireGL cards with full OpenGL Shader 3.0 support (required for SW2008) start at around $200 - and will offer better performance and a richer feature set for SolidWorks than even the highest-end gaming cards.
Anyone willing to trust Microsoft to develop stable, robust drivers for professional 3d graphics applications is seriously deluded. It's just too small a market for Microsoft to invest the necessary resources. We'd get the equivalent of Software OpenGL - though maybe a bit faster.
And no, I don't sell hardware.
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A richer feature set?....what?....its the same card.....it doesn't offer anything more....except that they use the software driver to turn off stuff on the gaming card. My gmaing cards runs Solidworks very well....I'm just missing Realview.....which, as others report....hacking the driver to make it think its a quadro makes it run like a quadro...because its the same card.
And don't tell me its piracy....if I want to write drivers for any of "MY" computer hardware...I have the right to do so. Just like Ford can't tell me I cannot modify the engine my car. I own it.
Jason
UG NX2.02.2 on Win2000 SP3
UG NX4.01.0 on Win2000 SP3
SolidWorks 2007 SP2.2 on WinXP SP2
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Also, "Anyone willing to trust Microsoft to develop stable, robust drivers for professional 3d graphics applications is seriously deluded."
I was in no way saying that Microsoft will develop stable drivers for video cards - thats the job of the video card companies. Microsoft is providing a foundation (DirectX 10) that video card makers will write drivers in which to operate in (Make API Calls to). In the end I think it will open things up a little bit, rather than continue with the status quo as Jason describes. This is why I posted the clip from Ron Fritz at Tech Soft. From what Ron says, he feels that OpenGL will begin to decline as Vista and DirectX10 begin to increase and drivers become more stable. Time will tell.
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