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Now how would you fix this screw up??

Now how would you fix this screw up??

Now how would you fix this screw up??

(OP)
I guess someone made a mistake on the elevation.  This is pretty funny.  I guess you can just sell the house and include a hummer with the house.  This isn't my project btw.






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RE: Now how would you fix this screw up??

Solution: 6" lift kit for your vehicle.

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RE: Now how would you fix this screw up??

My crystal ball sees lawsuits & jackhammering ahead.
If the garage footings are deep enough (below frost depth), maybe repour the floor 3 feet lower, provide some stairs & redo driveway to match.

To avoid the problem shown, I recall some trilevel homes in Wisconsin having garages dug into the hillside.  The driveways always drifted over with snow in winter.

COEngineeer please update on future developments.

RE: Now how would you fix this screw up??

Please tell me that is not somewhere it snows....

RE: Now how would you fix this screw up??

Easy.  Increase the slope at the midpoint, remove concrete below that and make it concave, add concrete above that and make it convex.  Like a pickup ramp.  Hell of a ride in either direction.

You'll need swimming pool specialists to finish the concrete.  




Mike Halloran
Pembroke Pines, FL, USA

RE: Now how would you fix this screw up??

sheesh.  just when I think I've seen everything.  I thought the stair fowl-up posted a few days ago was a good one.  this one wins so far.

RE: Now how would you fix this screw up??

Future real estate salesperson:
And here's the garage, fully accessorized with matching his & her winches..."

RE: Now how would you fix this screw up??

I have seen steeper driveways clinging to rock mountainsides in upstate NY, but they had an excuse.  

Here ... it looks like the garages were built on several feet of fill.

I think I can hear an echo of some jackass braying "Just Do It!", and his long- suffering minions muttering "Yes-Sir!".

Mike Halloran
Pembroke Pines, FL, USA

RE: Now how would you fix this screw up??

Leave the garage alone. Raise the road!!!!

RE: Now how would you fix this screw up??

For slopes that steep, you need transition slopes at the top and the bottom

Dik

RE: Now how would you fix this screw up??

Easy to put out the garbage and... shovel the snow.

Elevation views were obviously missing... again.

BigInchworm-born in the trenches.
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RE: Now how would you fix this screw up??

I think they just need to do a little mudjacking!

RE: Now how would you fix this screw up??

Raise the sidewalk several feet and repour the apron and driveway to a more reasonable slope.

RE: Now how would you fix this screw up??

ok, the design is messed, but ...

why, oh why, did anyone build it ???
it looks to me to be poured in situ ... that must have been interesting (or is the curved edge cut into pre-formed slabs ?)

RE: Now how would you fix this screw up??

"why, oh why, did anyone build it ???"

...because contractors do stupid things figuring no one will notice.

RE: Now how would you fix this screw up??

Because the guys who build it dont feel any responsibility. As long as they can find someone else to blame they will go home and not think twice about it.

There is no pride of workmanship in construction anymore.

RE: Now how would you fix this screw up??

(OP)
Even if I were the concrete truck guy delivering the concrete, I would have said something lol.

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RE: Now how would you fix this screw up??

"why, oh why, did anyone build it ???...because contractors do stupid things figuring no one will notice."

More likely in this case, the builders (and concrete truck driver and everyone else involved) did question the design- and got an "I'm the engineer do it my way" response or maybe a total lack of response somewhere back up the chain of command.  Not everyone can be reasoned with.

When a construction crew runs into some kind of obvious goof, they have several options.  They can get on the phone and try to get a quick clarification.  With some engineers and some owners, this is simply impossible, nothing gets done except in writing and in two or three weeks time, maybe never.  The crew can use their own judgment and fix it however they think it needs to be (and then get a "stupid contractor" thread going).  Or, they can just delay work indefinitely while pending some kind of resolution, and then be charged liquidated damages for delaying the job, as well as incurring additional expenses themselves.  It's not always a good situation.

RE: Now how would you fix this screw up??

ahh, the old "lose, lose" trick; that 's the third time i've fallen for it this month ...

RE: Now how would you fix this screw up??

OK, its obviously a rip off situation, they didn't even put a convex curve into the ramp up to the garage.  But they did it that way because the design was drawn that way by somebody that never saw the site, didn't understand how to read a site contour drawing or make a cut & fill plan and there's tons of more money for the contractor under the "Extra Work" clause in the construction contract, because somebody doesn't know how to prepare a contract that would prohibit that kind of construction, or manage a construction project either, and never even cared to visit the construction site.  Hopefully the idiot developer will find somebody that knows what the heck they are doing before starting the next job (if there will be a next job).  Hopefully he went bust.

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RE: Now how would you fix this screw up??

was there a civil engineer involved in this project?  were there ANY engineers or architects involved?  doesn't appear to be any planning involved as far as grading and access between the street and houses are concerned.

RE: Now how would you fix this screw up??

"I'm the engineer do it my way"

JStephen - with all due respect, it was probably ""I'm the developer do it my way". After the site/civil plans are done, I doubt the engineer is ever called upon again.

Where I live, there is a lot of on-going residential construction; everything is done by subcontracting. Builders/developers don't do any actual construction; they're just brokers.  The concrete guy probably asked the developer's foreman what to do and he was probably told  "just put it in if you want to get paid."

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