×
INTELLIGENT WORK FORUMS
FOR ENGINEERING PROFESSIONALS

Log In

Come Join Us!

Are you an
Engineering professional?
Join Eng-Tips Forums!
  • Talk With Other Members
  • Be Notified Of Responses
    To Your Posts
  • Keyword Search
  • One-Click Access To Your
    Favorite Forums
  • Automated Signatures
    On Your Posts
  • Best Of All, It's Free!
  • Students Click Here

*Eng-Tips's functionality depends on members receiving e-mail. By joining you are opting in to receive e-mail.

Posting Guidelines

Promoting, selling, recruiting, coursework and thesis posting is forbidden.

Students Click Here

Jobs

Mounded Bullet - Fire sizing relief valves

Mounded Bullet - Fire sizing relief valves

Mounded Bullet - Fire sizing relief valves

(OP)
Pls refer to below thread.

thread794-179601

Would be interested on more suggestions from members.

RE: Mounded Bullet - Fire sizing relief valves

I'd say there is no credible fire case.

Good luck,
Latexman

RE: Mounded Bullet - Fire sizing relief valves

NFPA 58 still require a pressure relief device but permits its flow rate to be derated by 70%.

RE: Mounded Bullet - Fire sizing relief valves

kvbalu,

I would be a little cautious about arbitrarily applying any code, standard or guideline without making sure what your project requires or allows.

Here's an example of some of the different codes, standards, practices that may apply...
http://www.osha.gov/pls/oshaweb/owadisp.show_document?p_table=INTERPRETATIONS&p_id=20046

Follow the link for 1910.110 at the top of the page in the above link and look at 1910.110(d)(4)(iii) which essentially is the same as NFPA 58.

There is a difference between what API RP-521 allows and what NFPA 58 allows.

API RP-521 does not say whether it is or is not specifically for LPG installations but API Standard 2510, Design and Construction of LPG Installations and API Publication 2510A both reference API RP-520 and API RP-521 for relief system design.   However, API 2510 also says it is not for underground or mounded storage tanks.  

API RP-521 suggests a 0.03 environmental factor for earth-covered storage and a 0 (zero) environmental factor for below-grade storage.

NFPA 58 does not distinguish between mounded or underground installations and they suggest an "equivalent" 0.3 environmental factor in either case.  In that respect NFPA 58 would require a larger relief system than API RP-521.

Again, you need to look at your project requirements to determine what codes, standards or guidelines can be applied.  The ones above would apply in the US but there could be others that you need to consider, for example, the Health and Safety Commission of Great Britain have some that I'm not familiar with their details...
http://www.hse.gov.uk/lau/lacs/52-14.htm

There could be other local requirements that you must also consider.

RE: Mounded Bullet - Fire sizing relief valves

EEMUA also has some good references, such as their publication 190: Guide for the Design, Construction and Use of Mounded Horizontal Cylindrical Bulk Storage Vessels for Pressurised LPG at Ambient Temperatures

Cheers,
Joerd

Please see FAQ731-376 for tips on how to make the best use of Eng-Tips.

Red Flag This Post

Please let us know here why this post is inappropriate. Reasons such as off-topic, duplicates, flames, illegal, vulgar, or students posting their homework.

Red Flag Submitted

Thank you for helping keep Eng-Tips Forums free from inappropriate posts.
The Eng-Tips staff will check this out and take appropriate action.

Reply To This Thread

Posting in the Eng-Tips forums is a member-only feature.

Click Here to join Eng-Tips and talk with other members!


Resources