Buckling in telescoping hydraulic cylinders
Buckling in telescoping hydraulic cylinders
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I started to examine a multi-stage telescoping hydraulic cylinder for Euler buckling (it actually is rigidly mounted at its base stage, and has side loads as well, so there are interaction equations to be dealt with), when I realised something important.
My "d'oh" moment of the day.
The walls of the cylinder--all the cylinders that contain oil, actually--are NOT under axial compression loads. They are under outward hydraulic pressure from the oil. They see a hoop stress. Euler's buckling equation doesn't enter into it.
So, now how do I determine stability? The overlap at each stage has a moment associated with it, and since all components are springs (the world's a spring...), there is a lateral and torsional deflectiomns from each subsequent stage on the stage before it. At some point, the deflections and the lateral and COMPRESSIVE forces heterodyne, and the system destabilizes. How do I calculate that without going any further into a master's thesis?
And do I even start thinking about the fact that the hoop stresses from the outward pressure of the oil actually OFFSET the compressive wall stresses in the cylinders, thereby improving the system response!?!
Or have I gone and made a simple problem needlessly difficult?
Thanks in advance!
My "d'oh" moment of the day.
The walls of the cylinder--all the cylinders that contain oil, actually--are NOT under axial compression loads. They are under outward hydraulic pressure from the oil. They see a hoop stress. Euler's buckling equation doesn't enter into it.
So, now how do I determine stability? The overlap at each stage has a moment associated with it, and since all components are springs (the world's a spring...), there is a lateral and torsional deflectiomns from each subsequent stage on the stage before it. At some point, the deflections and the lateral and COMPRESSIVE forces heterodyne, and the system destabilizes. How do I calculate that without going any further into a master's thesis?
And do I even start thinking about the fact that the hoop stresses from the outward pressure of the oil actually OFFSET the compressive wall stresses in the cylinders, thereby improving the system response!?!
Or have I gone and made a simple problem needlessly difficult?
Thanks in advance!





RE: Buckling in telescoping hydraulic cylinders
Lastly, design for tension allowables using hoop stress + residual tensile bending loads (if any) from the compressive case.
When in doubt, keep it conservative. IMO.
BigInch
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RE: Buckling in telescoping hydraulic cylinders
But as I picture it, the cylinder walls NEVER see any axial compression! (Except maybe the top-most stage) Even the bottom-most stage doesn't carry any axial load--it's all hoop stress from the opil pressure...all the way up! I'll see a slight modification from the weight of the oil, but it's driven by the pressure from supporting the next stage up...
Until I put the lateral loading into it. Then it bends like a cantilever (or a series of cantilevers with springs between them).
And I agree--I'll "keep" any benefit I might see to the compressive side from the tensile hoop stress as a measure of conservatism.
Thanks for the response.
--Boothby
"The biggest cause of trouble in the world today is that the stupid people are so sure about things and the intelligent folks are so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell
RE: Buckling in telescoping hydraulic cylinders
Add the hoop tension and the tensile bending stress together on the two planes of a small element and use Mohr's circle (or Von Misses, Tresca, etc.) to find the maximum shear tensile stress. Then apply the safety factor.
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