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modeling or modelling?
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modeling or modelling?

modeling or modelling?

(OP)
Guys,

Which is correct: modeling or modelling?

Cheers

RE: modeling or modelling?

I always use modelling, but I'm in the UK. I think the alternative is more common on the other side of the pond.

RE: modeling or modelling?

It is spelt as Modelling in our place as we were part of the British Empire.

RE: modeling or modelling?

Top models are better

RE: modeling or modelling?

Dictionary.com shows it as one "l" for here, and 2"l's" for British spelling. Thinking of the "spelling" for example, it is spell and spelling, not spellling. Or work and working, not workking. So why model, and modelling?   

RE: modeling or modelling?

CheckerRon,

Are you trying to apply sense to the English language with respect to rules?  Good luck with that.  winky smile

Cheers,
CanuckMiner

RE: modeling or modelling?

Yeah.....Futile isn't it?

RE: modeling or modelling?

"why model, and modelling?" ... to make up for these

English          American
enrolment      enrollment
fulfil              fulfill
skilful            skillful

cheers

RE: modeling or modelling?

Ha ha ha. That was a good one CBL. Take that.

Bill

RE: modeling or modelling?

Touché. But it just reinforces what CanuckMiner said.

RE: modeling or modelling?

Just make sure that your significant others are trained correctly.  When someone asks them what their S.O. does for a living, they should reply, "Oh, he/she models for a living..."  When my wife tells someone this, it's funny to watch their faces when they meet me...

RE: modeling or modelling?

On the subject of British vs. American spelling:

Can anyone explain to me why the recent Will Smith film is called "The Pursuit of Happyness"? I can't find "happyness" in even the American on-line dictionaries.

RE: modeling or modelling?

They made it up then.

Happiness is beer shaped.

Bill

RE: modeling or modelling?

Re English vs American:

I work for in a US/UK team that does a lot of modelling (modeling) of liquids, gases and vapours (vapors).  We make licences (licenses) for customers who then email us with enquiries (inquiries).  After a few years the continual "correction" of spellings got boring and we just don't bother any more.

RE: modeling or modelling?

So you were battered into submission by American 'English'?

Bill

RE: modeling or modelling?

checkeron

Spell, sell, stall, kill, bill etc. already have two l's after a vowel. So, you don't add (or need) in present continuous tense (or in gerunds).

*Why make the same mistake twice when there so many new ones available*

RE: modeling or modelling?

WGJ:

Far from it.  We just don't bother changing what they give us and vice versa.  The only one that we've caved in on is "license" as both verb and noun.

I'm still (sadly) amused when I see my old "Drivers license" from my US days.  None of my colleagues over there could see that "Drivers license" is a statement rather than an object.

RE: modeling or modelling?

edison123: I know. I was just doing a little cage rattling for the fun of it.

RE: modeling or modelling?

Re: "The Pursuit of Happyness"

It's an acknowledged misspelling.  Will Smith's character brings his son to a day care facility in San Franciso's China Town where the word "happyness" is written on a wall.  The misspelling bothers Will Smith and he points it out.

RE: modeling or modelling?

Thanks JNieuwsma - now that I know it is deliberate, I might actually go and see the movie! (I couldn't bear to part with money to see a movie which seemed to flaunt its illiteracy!)

RE: modeling or modelling?

So the short answer is one's American and one's English.

My American wife can't get over the bond film 'Licence to Kill'.  No matter how many times I explain that it's essentially an English film (though probably made with American money) she insists it should be 'License to Kill' and that the film makers were idiots.

RE: modeling or modelling?

When I worked in England and I'd say "zee"-something for the last letter of the alphabet, everyone there would think up a reason to say "zed", which is how they'd say it.  It got to be a running joke there, trying to frustrate the poor American girl.  

I still find myself using "s" where I should be using "c's".  

RE: modeling or modelling?

If the participle is formed from a verb with an "e" at the end, such as "file", the single consonant indicates that the preceding vowel has the long sound: "filing"

"Model" has no "e" at the end and needs a double "l" when forming the participle,otherwise I would  expected it to be pronounced with a long "e": "modeeling"

I wasn't taught this, but it works when deciding how to spell such words. (Except in the USA)

Other examples are "rate" and "rating", "rot" and "rotting", "mate" and "mating", "bat" and "batting"

Jeff

RE: modeling or modelling?

I think your 'Except in the USA' is a major flaw to your plan.

However in principle I agree, star for you.

RE: modeling or modelling?

Quote (notnats):


"Model" has no "e" at the end and needs a double "l" when forming the participle,otherwise I would  expected it to be pronounced with a long "e": "modeeling"

I wasn't taught this, but it works when deciding how to spell such words. (Except in the USA)

Spot on.

I was taught that by my mother, my sister taught that to her children and I taught that to my son.

Hop -> hopping
Hope -> hoping

She was hopping around the room and I was hoping to go out.

Fill -> filling
File -> filing

I was filing a piece of metal and she was filling a pasty case with jam.

The effect of doubling the consonant to shorten the vowel is clearly audible and is different to the Jananese doubling of consonants which is to them an audible modification - almost repetition - of the consonant, eg konnichi wa (good day) comes from kono meaning this {something} and nichi meaning day.

She was just biding her time while I was bidding at the auction.


Books are being replaced by videos and so the population of the western world is losing literacy as a result.


RE: modeling or modelling?

So here's another one:

Adapt.
If you adapt something to extend its capabilities or to make it more versatile, why is it an adaptation and not simply an adaption?

Bill

RE: modeling or modelling?

Modify - modification

...tion is part of what is added to the word to give a new ending, so adaption could be derivative of a word adap (with no t) if it existed. There is a t in adapt isn't there? And there is no reason to remove it.


radius - radii
The original i stays and the i in the ending is added too.

RE: modeling or modelling?

Clearer, thank you. I did once put this to a university lecturer in English and she didn't provide a concise explanation. In fact, I don't think she had one.

Bill

RE: modeling or modelling?

My preference is "labelling" and "modelling".  

The English rule is to apply a double consonant when adding -ing to the end of a word where the last syllable is prounced with a short vowel and there isn't already two or more consonants at the end of the word.  Examples: batting, running, and wrapping.  Counter examples: battling, backing, and ringing.  

If the last syllable is pronounced with a long vowel, then a single consonant is used (usually, but not always this involves replacing an ending silient vowel with -ing).  Examples: Bating, raging, and waiting.

In the case of model and label, both methods are accepted.  It is the evil Microsoft empire that has been trying to conform everyone to the single L spellings of those words.

Matt
CAD Engineer/ECN Analyst
Silicon Valley, CA
http://sw.fcsuper.com/index.php

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