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When I started my first job, the owner of the company used the above to start the narrative to most transmittal letters or faxes. I picked it up and started using it but I never checked its veracity in English language grammar. Any thoughts?





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However it of course makes sense to reference them in the main body and what you've put seems perfectly good, I certainly use it on occasion.
The one I picked up was a sign off of "trusting this meets your immediate requirement" whenever responding to customer or anyone else with information they've requested. I got this one off my first supervisor, an ex Portsmouth (UK) naval dockyard engineer.
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07 November 2006
Enclosed please find . . . .
Gary Blake is coauthor of one of my favorite business writing books. Now, at Business Know-How, he lists "The 10 Deadliest Words and Phrases in Business." Among them: "Please be advised," "Please do not hesitate to contact me," and "Enclosed please find."
Check out the full list; it's a good refresher course.
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Posted by Ken in Revising | Permalink
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What cracks me up is that I broke #6 in my original post!
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Luis
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Enclosed herewith.......
Attached herewith......
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May I dare to disagree with certain self-pronounced business writing experts?
I don't see why "enclosed please find" or "please don't hesitate to contact me" would be deadly just because everybody uses them. Just as if saying "how are you" when you meet your customer would be deadly too.
What else is one expected to write? "In the same envelope in which you found this letter, you will find another piece of paper: our quoation for this job". "If you have any questions and feel like calling me, please go ahead". The problem with these more original expressions (apart from the fact they're longer) is that you can't use them 2 or 3 times or the other person will note the repetition, so you'll have to stay creative and "surprise" your customer each time with a new original way to say the same thing (a rather useless way to spend your precious time).
You don't have this problem with a cliché. There's just nothing wrong with using a cliché each time you want to express the same thing. If you don't use a cliché you will become just as annoying to your customer as the co-worker who "surprises" you every morning (for 25 years) with another original reply to "how are you".
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"In fact, writing is a process that can be managed, like any other business process. If you can manage people, money, or time — then you can manage your writing."
Hey who mentioned clichés!
PEInc I don't mean to attack you but these experts just get on my nerves...
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On what planet is "Please call me" equivalent to "Please do not hesitate to call me"?
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ex = has been
spert = drip under pressure
Therefore: expert = has been drip under pressure.
Why would you listen to them!
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"I am sending you it separately."
I'm not sure that it breaks any rules, but it sure is ugly.
"I am sending it to you, separately." sounds much better to my ear, albeit at a huge increase in typing effort.
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Greg Locock
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My own little non-standard peeve is that I like to use "enclose", "attach", and "append" fairly literally. If it's a fax, I refuse to use "enclosed" or "attached" even if it means using the relatively non-standard "appended".
Not that I've faxed anything in years.
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"enclosed you will find..." to be used in place of the dreaded "enclosed please find."
rmw
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"We have enclosed the ..."
or actually saying something about the thing enclosed...
cheers
Jay
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John Nabors
Two wrongs do not make a right. Three rights, however, make a left.
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I, for one, would like to return to that time when people could actually write (or speak) a complete sentence. If you want to use "Enclosed, please find..." or "Sincerely..." and you don't mind sounding as if you just arrived from the 1950's, why should anyone complain?
At least you aren't using "prolly", "LOL", "lite" or any of the other made-up words so common in today's vocabulary.
I don't have a problem with the use of antiquated phrases but I just want to scream when I receive an email at work with no punctuation, no capitalization, or one having any of the other "shortcuts" that people want to take when writing a business memo.
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I totally agree. Why is it that people think they do not need to spell correctly, punctuate anything, etc. when writing e-mails and other memos? It's just people being lazy. Also, most of those people "prolly" don't know how to spell, punctuate, etc. Now, they feel that they don't need to know how.
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What the heck "LOL" "prolly" mean?
Today, I was told to take a WAG at the incremental cost. I went "huh?".
I found out that it meant Wld Ass Guess. Yeah, I learned something today.
Sometimes, I get so lost in these forums, I don't know if folks are using abbreviations, interjections, or just an internet chat type of shortcut.
Oh, here is another one, I was asked: "what is the plural of y'all?" some kind of red neck joke I guess. Anyone willing to take a WAG at it?
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that's easy - it's "all y'all"
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One that got used at my last place was CDF, meant common sense but the literal translation was a little vulgar for this site.
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I used to commute 2+ hours between home and U of M . I had an 8 am statics class with a Monday morning test. I accidentally left my calculator at home that trip. I took an entire statics exam without a calculator. We were always required to turn in the scratch paper we had used - that way, we'd get partial credit if we were on the right track. My professor asked me what all that was on my scratch paper and I explained that I had left my calculator at home so I did the calcs long-hand. He laughed and said I could have borrowed his calculator...I said, no, I don't know how to use the graphing kind...I made it through college with a TI-30 solar calculator and have never owned anything "stronger". I did get an A on that test, btw.
My nephew learned "inventive spelling" in the 3rd grade (public school in Michigan). He was taught to guess at a spelling if he didn't know it, rather than look it up in the dictionary.
Not to knock public school (I went to the same school as my nephew, just 20 years earlier) or anything, but do they expect kids to be dumb nowadays?
My final rant...I went to the library on Sunday. I wanted to use the card catalog. It is fully computerized. All of the computers were taken by kids surfing MySpace. I couldn't even look up the author of a book I wanted to try to find.
That IRKS me, y'all...