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Sexual Harassment training.
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Sexual Harassment training.

Sexual Harassment training.

(OP)
Call me picky but given that the aim of the training is normally to stop Sexual Harassment, not teach you how to do it better, shouldn’t it be “Anti Sexual Harassment training” or “Sexual Harassment Prevention training” or similar.

RE: Sexual Harassment training.

Yes, but that would probably reduce attendance.

RE: Sexual Harassment training.

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(OP)
It came up after our all hands meeting the other day.

The new HR director mentioned we'd be having training.

On the way out afterwards one of the female attendees dropped something and bent over to pick it up.  One of the male attendees didn't notice she'd stopped and grabbed a handful by accident as he walked past.  He apologized but said something like "give me warning next time and I'll grab a good handful".  It was at that point I made the comment, "XXXX doesn't need sexual harassment training, he's already quite good".

And from then on the conversation about why it’s called sexual harassment went on.

RE: Sexual Harassment training.

I would GLADLY help reduce attendance.
 I've always tried to avoid those aggrivating, time wasting, and usually ridiculous training sessions such as Sexual harrasment training or (worse) Diversity training, but HR always makes the darn things mandatory and hides to sign off sheet until it's over.

RE: Sexual Harassment training.

Reminds me of a truck I saw over the weekend, "Water Damage & Repair."  I was thinking, cool, they create the damage and then charge you to repair it.

"Art without engineering is dreaming; Engineering without art is calculating."

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RE: Sexual Harassment training.

(OP)
Well the it looked funny but once it started talking about female anatomy I figured maybe not at work.

RE: Sexual Harassment training.

Tomfh: We could all get in trouble, just opening that UTube thru the company net. Big Brother (IT) is watching.

RE: Sexual Harassment training.

Reminds me of a notice in the office of two (hard-case) ladies that I once worked with : "In this office Sexual Harassment will NOT be reported.... It WILL, however, be graded."

RE: Sexual Harassment training.

We can't even open youtube at work, just like we can't listen to internet radio, obviously a block has been put in place.

RE: Sexual Harassment training.

My truck feels a little mushy in the turns. I'm thinking about removing the sway bar.

RE: Sexual Harassment training.

Paulusgnome - I see you are 'electrical' - I was an apprentice with a large UK electronics and defence company. They also had a decent slice of the telephone industry when a lot of coils went into the apparatus.

On the site where I worked, there was a coil winding shop.
The coil winding shop was almost 100% staffed by women. Older, married / divorced / been-around-a-while women.
God help any poor apprentice that was assigned to the coil winding shop. I was lucky and never had to go there. Others weren't so lucky.

At the back of the shop was a long bench that had small 3" vices bolted to it about 5 feet apart. These were rework stations.
Apprentices generally wore white shop coats - the type made from thick cotton that buttoned up to just under the neck.
Some of the ladies thought it was quite funny to trap a green apprentice on the rework bench by clamping the cuffs of his coat in the vices.
So, there you were, standing up at the bench, arms spread and trapped by two vices, at the mercy of these 'ladies'......I can't go on, it's too horrible.

The marker inks usually washed/wore off the skin after a few days, but the embarassment lasted a lot longer.

It could be a court case these days, I suppose. Depends on whether the apprentice enjoyed it or not.

Bill

RE: Sexual Harassment training.

smile
We had the same kind of ladies workng in the drawing office. When you see Tom Jones posters on the wall, be scared. When you see tiger print, be very scared. When you smell Chanel no 5 or Poison you know it's already too late.

RE: Sexual Harassment training.

Its called "Sexual Harrasment" training as all I have ever learned at those things is what HR terms harrassment and thats its "bad".  I have never heard once on how to prevent it, apparently that is saved for Day 2 of those sessions which I guess I don't get invited to.

Maybe its like the SexEd class in grade school when all the boys had to go to gym on that "special" day just for the girls.

Frank "Grimey" Grimes
You can only trust statistics 90% of the time.

RE: Sexual Harassment training.

(OP)
OK so "Sexual Harrasment Awareness Training" then in your case Grimey.

However sexual harrasment training sounds like they're gonna teach you how to do it.

As a male engineer I find this insulting.  I have a god given ability to do it, I don't need any trainingsmile
 
Another good example stevenal.  Kind of like the 'could care less' example in a previous thread.

RE: Sexual Harassment training.

"Sexual Harassment training" means to train the sexual harass, or it means to avoid the sexual harass?

Sexual Harassment refers to persistent and unwanted sexual advances, typically in the workplace, where the consequences of refusing are potentially very disadvantaging to the victim.

Victims are more female but can be either male. I see sexual harass as a psychological disease where the harasser has an insecure behaviour, is the one who thinks that can take advantages from the other because of his power or because of his position.

Some women in the workplace are sometimes intentionally provocative and men are not made of wood…that is also a kind of sexual harass.  

Men and women are complements of each other. In the work place women show their sex appeal. Men try to be charm. This cannot be confused as sexual harassment.

In my opinion sexual harrassement cannot be trained,  
sexual harassement can maybe be treated as psychological disease.


Cheers

Luis

RE: Sexual Harassment training.

(OP)

Quote:

...men are not made of wood...

Please, no one follow up on this with the obvious comments.

RE: Sexual Harassment training.

The funniest harrassment sketch I've seen was on Saturday night live, when Tom Brady (good-looking football player) was the guest host.  The sketch was a satirical look at "How to be good at sexual harrassment"

There were 3 rules:

1) Be extremely good-looking
2) Be attractive
3) Do not be bad-looking

If you met these criteria, you would succeed at sexual harrassment...

tg

RE: Sexual Harassment training.

(OP)
So true trainguy.

If it's Halle Berry, Angelina Jolie, Kathy Lloyd, Kelly Brooke, Brad Pit... (insert whoever floats your boat) doing the harrassing you're less likely to complain.

Although Michael Douglas objected to Demi Moore in whatever that film was.

RE: Sexual Harassment training.

trainguy,

It's:

1. Be handsome
2. Be attractive
3. Don't be unnatractive

RE: Sexual Harassment training.

Thanks, Tomfh, for the exact data.

What kind of nut would object to Demi Moore?

I personally would want Moore, Moore...

tg

RE: Sexual Harassment training.

(OP)
Dudley?

Whatever floats your boat.

RE: Sexual Harassment training.

At 5'2", I would say Dudley is already a Demi!

RE: Sexual Harassment training.

is? Shouldn't that be was?

cheers

RE: Sexual Harassment training.


The movie with Michael Douglas and Demi Moore that you are thinking of is Disclosure.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0109635/

"If you are going to walk on thin ice, you might as well dance!"

RE: Sexual Harassment training.

(OP)
I nearly said entrapment, glad I didn't now.

RE: Sexual Harassment training.

What I can never figure out is when <minority> harasses the <majority> it is acceptable.

I once had a temporary cubicle at a client’s office that was adjacent to the entrance to their woman’s washroom. I could not be seen by the women entering the washroom and as that cubicle was normally empty they must have assumed that it was all the time. Mind you all I could hear was the start and end of some of the conversations but there were few males in the office willing to speak as graphically about the females as the females would about the males.

Some of the worse female offenders were the ones around whom you had to really watch your self.

Rick Kitson MBA P.Eng

Construction Project Management
From conception to completion
www.kitsonengineering.com

RE: Sexual Harassment training.

"What I can never figure out is when <minority> harasses the <majority> it is acceptable"

Because the power relationship is different between the two groups.  More powerful acting against less powerful is a worse situation than less powerful acting against more powerful.

Hg, who was hoping "Violence in the Workplace" training would be a how-to

Eng-Tips policies:  FAQ731-376

RE: Sexual Harassment training.

There is a forum here called "corrosion engineering." Here I thought it just happened naturally, guess they gotta engineer it in.

RE: Sexual Harassment training.

Whether or not the more powerful (majority?) or less powerful (minority)is the offender, neither is accceptable. The standard should not be situation ethics, but (sadly) it often is.

Stevenal, did you feel this thread is a proper medium for "corrosive" comments?

RE: Sexual Harassment training.

I think he's just getting old and cRUSTY!

cheers

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