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Completely Stumped...

Completely Stumped...

Completely Stumped...

(OP)
I've created a part, saved it, and checked it into PDM... My supervisor checked it out and it has warnings.. It's a sketch that looses it's placement face, and the holes that goes with it. It is perfect on my machine. And we have identical machines! We are e-mailing the file to a CSWP to see if it fails on his machine. I don't understand this at all.. I've went through all the options and matched mine to his. Still doesn't work.. any suggestions/help?!?

Thanks in advance..

Go Honda!

RE: Completely Stumped...

Same service packs?

In-context or external references missing?

RE: Completely Stumped...

That is very odd.  The obvious question is did you Ctrl+q the part on your machine?  Maybe the problem is there, but isn't showing up without a forced rebuild.  

Also try using the "Copy Settings" wizard to copy your machine SW settings to the other computer.  Is this a sheet metal feature?  

SW07 SP2.0

Flores

RE: Completely Stumped...

It's not the machines, it's the part. Is it actually a part, or is it an assembly? It almost sounds like you each have a different versions of the same named part on your hard drives. It works fine on yours, but it's not recognizing your supervisors. If it is strictly a part...hmmm...banghead

Jeff Mirisola, CSWP
CAD Administrator
SW '07 SP1.0, Dell M90, Intel 2 Duo Core, 2GB RAM, nVidia 2500M
http://designsmarter.typepad.com/jeffs_blog

RE: Completely Stumped...


Hello,

Please try the following in your machine ...

Tools > Options > Performance > turn ON Verification on Rebuild (near the top)  .. select OK

Then Press CTRL-Q (for a forced regen)

Do you now see the problem in your machine?

Do you have the same service pack as your supervisor?

cheers,

Joseph



RE: Completely Stumped...

Don’t keep the Verification on rebuild turned on permanently though. It will cause your machine to run slower.

What you need to do is use the Ctrl-Q more often when building your models. The problem is it probably already had all those error in it, but you didn't see them. The rebuild light just rebuilds the last feature. The Ctrl-Q is a force rebuild and rebuilds the entire model or assembly. When you open a file up it does a full rebuild and if there are any errors it will show up then. That’s why it’s so important for you to use Ctrl-Q when building a model.

Regards,

Scott Baugh, CSWP
www.scottjbaugh.com
FAQ731-376

RE: Completely Stumped...

(OP)
I've tried all that, it is just a part, and it's used in about 10 massivae assemblies, all are fine on my machine, we still haven't gotten a response from our CSWP, I'm lost. it's not a very complex part either. It's a tool that slides up and down on a tower, that holes something, the main assembly that we are trying to get working has about 12 configs to it, a transfer and lifting trolley. it (the tower) slides to different positions and the tower has many vertical position configs.. all attached with an energy chain, and we all know how fun they can be..

Go Honda!

RE: Completely Stumped...

(OP)
I thought it was go honda, being that it's already here for you guys to see

Go Honda!

RE: Completely Stumped...

That's what I figured it was, but it's not working.
I've tried go honda, gohonda, Go Honda...maybe I just need more coffee...

Jeff Mirisola, CSWP
CAD Administrator
SW '07 SP1.0, Dell M90, Intel 2 Duo Core, 2GB RAM, nVidia 2500M
http://designsmarter.typepad.com/jeffs_blog

RE: Completely Stumped...

I'm assuming when you uploaded the part it had no errors?

Jeff Mirisola, CSWP
CAD Administrator
SW '07 SP1.0, Dell M90, Intel 2 Duo Core, 2GB RAM, nVidia 2500M
http://designsmarter.typepad.com/jeffs_blog

RE: Completely Stumped...

CTRL+Q showed problems.  For both Sketch8 and also Sketch10 of the M6 Clearance Hole1, I picked the face that had the bottom gusset, and everything works now.

SW07 SP2.0

Flores

RE: Completely Stumped...

Oops, clarification, "For both Sketch8 and also Sketch10 of the M6 Clearance Hole1, I picked the face of Vertical Mount that had the bottom gusset, and everything works now.

SW07 SP2.0

Flores

RE: Completely Stumped...

I had the same two errors upon opening. Same fix as smcadman...
I'd say that the errors were there when you checked the part into PDM.

Jeff Mirisola, CSWP
CAD Administrator
SW '07 SP1.0, Dell M90, Intel 2 Duo Core, 2GB RAM, nVidia 2500M
http://designsmarter.typepad.com/jeffs_blog

RE: Completely Stumped...

(OP)
I never check anything in to PDM with errors at all, so now that the part has been loaded into several machines, what is the problem with my machine? The errors that you guys listed are the same ones on the other machine here...

Go Honda!

RE: Completely Stumped...

What happens on your machine when you try to right-click on one of those sketches and choose "edit sketch plane"?  What plane is being used on your machine?

RE: Completely Stumped...

(OP)
ah ha.. nothing selected...

Go Honda!

RE: Completely Stumped...

Something was selected at some point...you don't work at one of those companies that has beer in the office fridge, do you? cheers

Jeff Mirisola, CSWP
CAD Administrator
SW '07 SP2.0, Dell M90, Intel 2 Duo Core, 2GB RAM, nVidia 2500M
http://designsmarter.typepad.com/jeffs_blog

RE: Completely Stumped...

(OP)
no, I work for the US Government. funny though, I needed a laugh. how did the holes stay there, I can ctrl-q the heck out of this thing and it stays the same...

Go Honda!

RE: Completely Stumped...

[no coffee yet] Perhaps they were put on a plane that was later deleted or built on a plane in the context of the assembly, and now the part is "orphaned" from the assembly such that the holes hang in space without their proper plane referenced?
[getting coffee now]

(Yeah, yeah, yeah--just getting going this morning.)

Jeff Mowry
www.industrialdesignhaus.com
Reason trumps all.  And awe trumps reason.

RE: Completely Stumped...

Was the part edited in context of an assy, then broken?

Chris
SolidWorks 06 4.1/PDMWorks 06
AutoCAD 06
ctopher's home (updated 10-27-06)

RE: Completely Stumped...

I've seen it go both ways when a sketch loses its sketch plane. Sometimes it'll work, sometimes no.
Did you change the extrusion after creating the holes? If you only changed thicknes it shouldn't matter, but this is SolidWorks we're talking about.

Jeff Mirisola, CSWP
CAD Administrator
SW '07 SP2.0, Dell M90, Intel 2 Duo Core, 2GB RAM, nVidia 2500M
http://designsmarter.typepad.com/jeffs_blog

RE: Completely Stumped...

I wonder if the holes were an assembly feature. ..

Jeff Mowry
www.industrialdesignhaus.com
Reason trumps all.  And awe trumps reason.

RE: Completely Stumped...

It's too bad that no one is willing to help you on this forum! wink

SW07 SP2.0

Flores

RE: Completely Stumped...

Y'know, he did say he works for the government...the holes may just be swamp gasses lit up by the aurora borealis, or the sun shining off of a weather ballon...

Jeff Mirisola, CSWP
CAD Administrator
SW '07 SP2.0, Dell M90, Intel 2 Duo Core, 2GB RAM, nVidia 2500M
http://designsmarter.typepad.com/jeffs_blog

RE: Completely Stumped...

Seriously, where it's simply a part and all you did was create it, save it and check it into PDM and then it 'broke', I'd have to say that somehow you checked it in with the errors already there.
If you fix the error and then check it back in, does it stay fixed? Or, if your supervisor fixes it, checks it in and then you check it out, does it stay fixed?

Jeff Mirisola, CSWP
CAD Administrator
SW '07 SP2.0, Dell M90, Intel 2 Duo Core, 2GB RAM, nVidia 2500M
http://designsmarter.typepad.com/jeffs_blog

RE: Completely Stumped...

(OP)
Easy now, I'm trying to make energy over here... I've uploaded the "tower" were this part is used..

http://quick.dropfiles.net/343792

password b18c5rjdm

Go Honda!

RE: Completely Stumped...

That file is just the assy file. It can only be opened as View Only unless the assy components are zipped with it.

Or was that the intention?

cheers

RE: Completely Stumped...

b18,
Did you create the sketch and/or holes in context with the assembly? If not, then the assembly is useless.

Jeff Mirisola, CSWP
CAD Administrator
SW '07 SP2.0, Dell M90, Intel 2 Duo Core, 2GB RAM, nVidia 2500M
http://designsmarter.typepad.com/jeffs_blog

RE: Completely Stumped...

(OP)
Yes I did, then broke refs and fully defined the sketch.. I think this dog has been beaten enough, I just wanted to know why mine was fine and everyone else had errors/warnings.. Still confused as to why but I have to move on.. wasted almost 20 hours on this now...

Go Honda!

RE: Completely Stumped...

I think the assy you broke away from is on your pc. You need to search thru the whole sketch and remove any association to the assy.

Chris
SolidWorks 06 4.1/PDMWorks 06
AutoCAD 06
ctopher's home (updated 10-27-06)

RE: Completely Stumped...

Is Tools/Options/Performance "Verification on Rebuild" checked? This setting does more in depth error checking. Although for this kind of problem, it should show up.

Jason

UG NX2.02.2 on Win2000 SP3
SolidWorks 2006 SP5.0 on WinXP SP2
SolidWorks 2007 SP2.0 on WinXP SP2

RE: Completely Stumped...

(OP)
Verification on Rebuild was checked, did a ctrl-Q, nothing, then turned it off to speed things up again...

Go Honda!

RE: Completely Stumped...

RMB sketch, edit sketch plane, select correct surface. Do the same for hole sketches. Save, check-in.

Chris
SolidWorks 06 4.1/PDMWorks 06
AutoCAD 06
ctopher's home (updated 10-27-06)

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