Cameron versus Crane Technical Paper #410
Cameron versus Crane Technical Paper #410
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It seems to me that most of the loss information contained in Cameron Hydraulic Data manual is derived from Crane's Technical Paper #410: Flow of Fluids through Valves, Fittings, and Pipe. For example, the table on page 3-120 of Cameron uses the K-values from Technical Paper #410 with a friction factor assumed.
One issue of confusion, in Cameron (on page 3-118) they show the K-value for gradual enlargements as:
K = (1 - (D1^2/D2^2))^2
Technical Paper #410 uses the following formula (see page A-26, Formula 4):
K = (1 - (D1^2/D2^2))^2/(D1/D2)^4
The denominator in the Crane's formula makes the K-value almost an order of magnitude difference in some cases.
For example, for a sudden enlargement from a 16" pipe to 24" pipe, the K value according to Cameron is 0.3 while the K value according to Crane is 1.5.
Does anyone know which is correct or if both of them are correct? My opinion is that Crane is correct and Cameron is wrong (since Cameron borders on plagiarizing Crane), but you would think by 19th edition of Cameron, they would have this corrected. Any ideas?
Thanks,
M
One issue of confusion, in Cameron (on page 3-118) they show the K-value for gradual enlargements as:
K = (1 - (D1^2/D2^2))^2
Technical Paper #410 uses the following formula (see page A-26, Formula 4):
K = (1 - (D1^2/D2^2))^2/(D1/D2)^4
The denominator in the Crane's formula makes the K-value almost an order of magnitude difference in some cases.
For example, for a sudden enlargement from a 16" pipe to 24" pipe, the K value according to Cameron is 0.3 while the K value according to Crane is 1.5.
Does anyone know which is correct or if both of them are correct? My opinion is that Crane is correct and Cameron is wrong (since Cameron borders on plagiarizing Crane), but you would think by 19th edition of Cameron, they would have this corrected. Any ideas?
Thanks,
M





RE: Cameron versus Crane Technical Paper #410
Harvey
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RE: Cameron versus Crane Technical Paper #410
Now that you point that out, I realized something I was overlooking. On page 3-4 of Crane is the note:
"The values of the resistance coefficients (K) in equations 3-17, 3-18, and 3-18.1 are based on the velocity in the small pipe. To determine K values in terms of the greater diameter, divide the equations by B^4."
Also, Equations 3-17.1 and 3-18.1 from Crane are the same equations from Cameron (#2 and #4 on page 3-118).
Time to change my spreadsheets!
Thanks for the clarification,
M