Arc Flash and LV Transformers
Arc Flash and LV Transformers
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I'm having some trouble!
Can someone tell me if this is right? or point out the flaw in my calculations?
If I have a bolted fault current value on the secondary of a transformer, the closest upsptream protective device will be called on to interrupt the arc. If the closest device is on the primary (upstream in a piece of switchgear). In order to determine the trip time of the device, the arc current has to be reflected across the transformer using the LV/HV ratio, and then read from the TCC curve for the fuse. Using the fuse melt time, the NFPA arc flash calculations can be done. Check this out:
Here are the numbers I'm having trouble with:
Transformer Specs:
112.5kVA
600/220V (delta-wye)
5.0 %Z
Available Fault Current (from custom spreadsheet):
24.5kA at the switch gear
16.4kA at the primary (due to feeder impedance)
4.34kA on the secondary (due to transformer impedance)
Fuse Data:
C200HR English Electric (bought out by GEC)
My arcing current on the secondary is then 2.45kA. (using equation D.8.2(a) from the NFPA70E)
Do I then take the 2.45 * 220/600 = 0.898kA to get the primary side current. Reading from the TCC I get ~24 second melt time.
This gives a normalized incident engery of 0.6J/cm^2 and incident energy of 652 J/cm^2 at 24 inches (460mm). This number is WAAAAYYY bigger than I would have expected.
Where is the flaw in my procedure????
Can someone tell me if this is right? or point out the flaw in my calculations?
If I have a bolted fault current value on the secondary of a transformer, the closest upsptream protective device will be called on to interrupt the arc. If the closest device is on the primary (upstream in a piece of switchgear). In order to determine the trip time of the device, the arc current has to be reflected across the transformer using the LV/HV ratio, and then read from the TCC curve for the fuse. Using the fuse melt time, the NFPA arc flash calculations can be done. Check this out:
Here are the numbers I'm having trouble with:
Transformer Specs:
112.5kVA
600/220V (delta-wye)
5.0 %Z
Available Fault Current (from custom spreadsheet):
24.5kA at the switch gear
16.4kA at the primary (due to feeder impedance)
4.34kA on the secondary (due to transformer impedance)
Fuse Data:
C200HR English Electric (bought out by GEC)
My arcing current on the secondary is then 2.45kA. (using equation D.8.2(a) from the NFPA70E)
Do I then take the 2.45 * 220/600 = 0.898kA to get the primary side current. Reading from the TCC I get ~24 second melt time.
This gives a normalized incident engery of 0.6J/cm^2 and incident energy of 652 J/cm^2 at 24 inches (460mm). This number is WAAAAYYY bigger than I would have expected.
Where is the flaw in my procedure????






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Am I right to say the high-side current is just the voltage-ratio times the low side arcing current?
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In these smaller transformers, the problem is even worse due to low fault current.
IEEE-1584 (in the Annex) does state that it is reasonable to use a maximum exposure time when the calculations show a very long arc duration. They suggest 2 seconds as a maximum fault duration.
From a practical standpoint, the probability of sustaining a 220V fault for 24 seconds is very low.
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"For fuses, the manufacturer’s time-current curves may include both melting and clearing time. If so, use the
clearing time. If they show only the average melt time, add to that time 15%, up to 0.03 seconds, and 10%
above 0.03 seconds to determine total clearing time. If the arcing fault current is above the total clearing time
at the bottom of the curve (0.01 seconds), use 0.01 seconds for the time.
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For example, the Ferraz Shawmut AJT family of fuses:
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All is says on the TCC graph is "Melting Time - Current Data, 600V Fuses". I've been assuming the lines represent an average melting time. I've been using my "Arcing Current" values to read off the melt time. I just read a website that claimed the clearing time is 10-15% more than the melting time. Does this sound right to anyone?
By this token, my 24 second melting time stated above would be inflated to 27.6 seconds, which is an even worse arc-hazard result!
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It would not be of any surprise that the worst arc flash hazard on a system would occur on the lowest voltage level used, behind a transformer just big enough that you have to evaluate the secondary of the transformer. (I'm too lazy to look it up at the moment, but there is a transformer size below which you don't need to evaluate 240 or 208V systems.)
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We use so many types of fuses here that I was hoping I wouldn't have to twist the arm of the fuse manufacturers to get the curves.
Do you think the add 15% to the average melt time is a valid method? It seems a bit loose and open ended to me.
Thanks for all the help, guys. I appreciated it.
I welcome any and all comments!
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We're only evaluating the systems with potential power usage greater than 100kVA.
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Apparently this is based on the test results where arcs were more likely to be sustained at 240 V. I think 208 V testing produced very few sustained arcs.
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(Inrush current)
http://www.sandc.com/webzine/012003_1.asp
Typically inrush is 12x FLC for 0.1s, and 25x FLC for 0.01s.
The 112KVA Tr with 200A fuses is easily too big for 12xFLC, but about right for 25xFLC.
150A fuses would be cutting it fine for inrush.
Are there any fuses with a slightly better curve?
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This will reduce incident energy from 5.61 to 2.74 J/cm^2. This brings the PPE requirement down from >4 down to level 1.
The 112.5kVA transformer powers a 75hp grinder motor. Does this seem like a viable solution?
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That is my understanding. I generally use SKM software, so I haven't done it by hand in a while.
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This idea is new to me. The calculated current value (bolted 3ph fault) at the fuse is much larger than the arcing current at the fault location on the transformer secondary.
I don't see how the fuse could possibly see the full bolted fault current based on a downstream fault. Or perhaps I'm misunderstanding?
I'm not sure how well the production line would respond to a stalled grinder... probably not a good thing.
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5.61 Joules = 1.34 cal - This is a low arc-flash level.
Are you missing some zeros somewhere?
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Here are the proper numbers:
@ 24 seconds, E = 652 J/cm^2 --> PPE level 4
@ 5.5 seconds, E = 155 J/cm^2 --> PPE level 3
These are clearly huge amounts of energy. Something I wouldn't expect to see on the low side of a 112.5kVA transformer at 220V.
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Just to confirm your calculated results, in simulating your situation in SKM, I get approx 1050 J/cm^2 because it also calculates the worst case considering the arcing current low tolerance.
David,
Thanks for straightening me out. I agree.
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The 125 kVA limitation in IEEE 1584 applies to 208V and lower. Anything higher than 208 V is a different story.
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The IEEE 1584 is that 208/120V systems should not be a concern. Well, they shouldn't be, but what do I tell the judge when he says it was. The text in the IEEE document is not shall or must, so I do the calc anyway.
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transformer in its immediate power supply."
How does "need not" stack up against "should not"?
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I think stevenal answered it. As for the judge goes all bets are off. On the otherhand I am sure if you show them recommendations of IEEE any san jury will equitt you of negligence. After all, the person who decides to work live an equipment bears some responsibilty.
If the judge or a jury is insane, it would not matter any way. Do you seriously think that just because your calculation turns out to be techncally correct and you are involved in a lawsuit it will be of any more help than showing a published standard??
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The IEEE formulas are all imperical formulas or are curve fits. Meaning curves were plotted based on several test results and then mathematician were called in to find the equation that fits the curves. So there are infinite number of scenarios that are not yet covered. At the same time there is no sense in going your merry way to find arc flash energy based on some unfoudned formulas.
IEEE recommends ignoring below 125kVA and 240V because the tests proved so, I believe.
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The values I gave were for 100% arcing current/100% bolted fault current. I have been performing my calculations at 100% AND 38% bolted fault current. 38% is the lowest fault level at which an arc can sustain itself on a 480V system (note: "industry accepted level", see: Annex D.6(1) NFPA70E).
Also, from these two BFC values I'm performing my calculations at 100% and 85% arcing current (as stated in Annex D.8.2(c)), to "account for variations in the arcing current and the time for the overcurrent device to open."
Does this 85% idea cover the addition of the 15% to the melting time as discussed above??? Do you think double counting this 15% might make the results too conservative?
Addressing the other comments,
If you do what the standards say then you will be deemed as having performed your due diligence to the best of your ability and by industry accepted ideals. This will essentially clear you of liability, barring strange circumstances.
rbulsara,
It doesn't matter if I NEED to do the calc, I'm doing it anyway while I'm at it. I'm working my way though about 200 loads in our system on 600V feeders. I am not generally dealing with the 208V loads in the plant. The example I gave just happened to step down to 220V. We have lots of step downs to 415V, 460V, 480V too.
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You can do the calcs, but the calculation method you may be following has not been backed up by tests and your results could be misleading.
The calculation methods mentioned in IEEE 1584 are for limited scenarios and they are not to be used for systems they do not support.
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I'm fairly comfortable with my method now.
In the end of all things, I'll probably have an electrical firm which specializes in arc flash analysis double check my numbers.
As was said earlier, arc flash is still in its infancy. Here at our facility we're just getting the ball rolling.
Thanks again for all the help~!