You Know You're Old/Young If ...
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I have been reading various comments in the fora which seems to date the poster as "old" or "young" sometimes.
I though maybe there is sufficient interest to compile a list to help the old identify with the young, and the young to identify with the old.
If you are in between, I guess pick a side?
I though maybe there is sufficient interest to compile a list to help the old identify with the young, and the young to identify with the old.
If you are in between, I guess pick a side?
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Steven K. Roberts, Technomad
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I'm young and I know what an eraser shield is, and I've even used it.
I cut my teeth on real drafting, the kind with the pencil and board, back in the 90s, used a template too.
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... or 5.25 floppy
Chris
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Now you are looking like the old guys of Muppets show on the theatre gallery.
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Chris
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... or 5.25 floppy
I still call CDs record albums. A CD is where you put your money and hope to get some interest.
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But, CD's will be gone in 5 years.
Chris
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Brian
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You know you're getting old when you start telling the "...went to school and had to walk up hill both ways..." stories.
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You used to 'watch the cows come home', and walk down a sidewalk and pick strawberries.
Chris
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Or that disk "platters" used to be big than a large pizza pan?
Or the ASR33 terminal and punchtape?
Or a Nixie tube?
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Can you explain that in pictures?
Chris
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You know you're young if you type faster with your thumbs than all 10 fingers.
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The first computer I ever played with was a Tandy TRS-80 with the smooth-top keyboard at the age of 9. I thought it was the most amazing thing. I programmed a minesweeper game on it.
I've never used a slide-rule, though...
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I fall in the middle area. I saw the rock bands in their heyday and on their reunion tours. And then when they toured the local bars on their last legs.
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The first step of troubleshooting electronic equipment was to check to see if all filaments were lit.
The second step was to see if any of the plates were glowing red.
You had to turn off "Caps Lock" when typing numbers on your "keyboard".
You had a "dial" on your phone.
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Uploading FEA models on a 300 baud acoustic coupler to the time sharing bureau in Birmingham, who sent them over to the data centre in the USA for processing.
Backing up the FEA model onto paper tape.
Writing our own pre and post processors.
Having to calibrate FEA models against Bruhn.
Recording noise and vibration inside a sportscar on a 24 track tape recorder that weighed 25 kg, balanced on my knees.
My boss buying me a 286 with a VGA card to run MathCad v1.0
Driving back from Melbourne at 200 kph on the back roads
and these days...telling graduates to go and draw a free body diagram.
Yup, I must be turning into an old fogey.
Cheers
Greg Locock
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You know you are young when people mistake you for an intern. My response is that when I am 90 hopefully people will think I am 75.
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"If you are going to walk on thin ice, you might as well dance!"
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I'm having trouble with this thread, so far I fall in the old category by more definitions than in the young but I'm only 28. Is it just because I used to work at a fairly old fashioned company, and even now with a lot of more senior colleagues or am I old before my time?
How about, you're old if you can remember when signed hard copy was the master.
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ifeelold
Chris
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You are firmly middle age if you saw the Rolling Stones first "last ever" concert tour.
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I received a Post Versalog as high school graduation present 'cause I wuz going to engineerin' school. If ya know what a Post Versalog is....you're probably not young.
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you still think a 20 Mb Hard disk is big
you hang on to the 5 1/4" diskettes you've had for 20 years in case you ever find something that'll read them again
you try to sell you're kids on how great a slide rule is because it never needs new batteries
you can't think of a drawing office without associating the small of ammonia from the dye line printer and Old Hoburn from the Chief Engineer's pipe
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You know your old when you like the music they play in the elevator (lift - whatever). I still remember the drawing that came along - LOL
Best regards
Morten
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You know your old if you have ever even seen, much less used an analog computer. (I have done both
-The future's so bright I gotta wear shades!
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http://www.winamp.com/
http://www.musicmatch.com/
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My first "adult" job was working graveyard at 7-11 convenience store. Most stores had tube testers and late night, the wire-heads would bring a brown bag of tubes in and stand for a couple of hours testing them then ask me to open the storage door to get their replacements. They'd get pretty miffed when I didn't have all the ones they needed.
(sigh) those were the days.
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1. I keep my slide rule and pocket protector in my top desk drawer;
2. I remember being taught the graphical method of determining forces in structural analysis;
3. I have books that I bought new on my engineering library shelf older than most of my co-workers;
4. Some of my old code books are smaller than Reader's Digest magazines.
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In my office all the Engineers, say 35 years and under, all listen to personal music either mp3 players or using the CD drive on the pc to listen to CD's. None of the older Engineers do this. There have also been times where it has been commented upon as unprofessional to listen to music at work (by the older Engineers).
I have read studies that certain types of music can make you cleverer, classical and celtic for instance are supposed to raise the IQ. On the otherhand hardcore techno and dance music is supposed to have the opposite effect.
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As far as listening to music at work, depends on the situation. If the engineer is doing a report that has to get done that day, anything that helps her relax and finish the job, I am in favor of. While all of us would like to listen to our mp3 players during meetings, unfortunately this is an example of an inappropriate time to listen to music!
For average, everyday work, no report deadlines, etc., I would discourage mp3 players at work--around my work, lots of stuff happens (short discussions generate spontaneously, for instance) and would be missed by the mp3 listeners.
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In my case, when I was a teenager, what you bought at the store was transistorized, but most of the things thrown away on trash day contained tubes, so my first designs were with tubes. Nowdays, I design stuff that I have to solder under a microscope that operates at frequencies that 'typical' tubes could never reach.
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Re. headphones; I exceed 35 by 143% (or is that 43% but that's another thread) but I find my streaming classical music invaluable. It helps block out the conversations which don't concern me and those BLASTED speakerphones that people are too lazy to.......sorry. Got sidetracked.
I have started listening with only one bud in so I can hear if a conversation does concern me. I've gotten adept at keeping the music in the middle-ground, conversations in the background, and my tasks in the foreground (in case my supervisor is reading this).
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"When it takes you all night to do what you used to do all night, you're the oldest swinger in town."
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Tobalcane
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If young: They will immediately turn to their computer,
If Old: It is guaranteed they have a hard copy in a drawer or stack of papers somewhere that they can find just as fast.
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You know your young when you have to ask what a dial hook is.
Good one, IRstuff!
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My wife threw away my Amstrad PCW just about that time (to my regret) and I'm now told my old Nokia phone is now "collectable".
I suppose also if you can remeber the first digital watch, the first pocket calculators and the days when the first electronic pub games were asteroids and paddle tennis.
JMW
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As for the Ipod thing, I guess I am getting old, b/c it took me forever to figure out the whole spin control thingie ie. what that big circle up front is for. My 10 year old niece does it all in seconds.
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I do still own my 1982 Casio fx-180P, which I got when I was 14. Nobody takes that away from me and lives!
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A couple of the older engineers were just talking at lunch time about their weekends, and one mentioned that he didn't have such a great one because there was a rave in the forest a few kilometers away, and they could hear it all night & day (it lasted about 3 days).
I made sure to just shut up and keep eating, since I was at that same party...
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LED watches -- Fairchild sunk literal truckloads of the red bezels in the Arizona desert, after having bought them for their watch line, only to see the LCD watches take over the market.
Channel F -- Fairchild's abortive attempt to compete with the likes of Atari. Cartridges for the game are buried in another hole in the Arizona desert.
I've still got an Osborne 1, one of the first "transportable" computers. Dang thing weighed like 35 lbs and worked very well as a boat anchor. Came with dual 86K(!!!) floppies!! Try getting that thing under an airliner seat
Daisy-wheel printers. Got one of those in my garage as well.
Oddly, dot-matrix printers are still available; my doctor's office uses them for multi-copy forms.
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Yup.
"You know you're old when you remember thinking a 50mb Zip Drive was the next best thing to sliced bread (and that wasn't long ago)."
Check.
Other evidence for being old:
I learned to type on a manual typewriter.
I've used BITNET and Gopher.
Few of my co-workers recognize the Bill Cosby lines I quote.
Hg
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Dot matrix, I miss the sound of machine gun fire in the background!
I started feeling old when the people serving me in a pub or bar were older than I was.
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You know that you're old if you know what a "Jones Strip" is.
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The Rolling Stones Return to North America with 'A Bigger Bang' Tour -- Kicks Off September 20th in Boston
http://www.keyt.com/entertainment/3422036.html
You're old if
-- your first calculator cost more than a few of your cars,
-- high-tech was SEM software loaded from a cassette tape,
-- "Gasoline price" & "war" was a combination devoutly to be wish'd,
Middle-aged if you remember
--- "Disco sucks"
--- "Nobody ever got fired for buying IBM"
and if you've added a USB card & CD drive to an old computer having both 5.25" & 3.5" drives 'just in case you ever need to transfer something.'
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We did have white-out strips - you back space, insert the strip over the boo-boo, and hit the key to imprint the white-out over the black ink. Repeat as necessary until the black is all covered.
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you're young if you can name all and every of those Pokemon things.
We can barely notice that age reference is easily enough measured from a technology point of view :D
Cyril Guichard
Mechanical Engineer Consultant
France
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You know you're old when you remember socialising with your friends on the jungle gym...now kids just mostly type, or SMS text or whatever.
I still remember the scheduled school yard fights, it was quite satisfying to see the local load mouth get his 'painful' just desserts.
I think that sort of stuff is banned nowadays, something about emotional problems. Although back then anti-social behaviour was stamped out very quickly, or at least as fast as the fist would go ;)
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When I learnt to type our machines had the white out tape in them but we still had to use regular correction fluid for when we did carbon copies, using separate carbon paper of course not self carbonated.
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Would that also be when you just got on with life and took the knocks without becoming a "victim" who needs counselling and/or protecting from themselves and everyone else under health and safety legislation! I may be looking through the old rose tinted, but I'm sure it was a healthier attitude to life back then.
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try sniffinf the original Wite-out with methyl ethyl ketone (MEK) as the solvent
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I’d like to think I don’t count as that old but how about.
Playgrounds at school & parks which didn’t have any kind of protective flooring. If you fell off the monkey bars or round-about you hit concrete or asphalt.
Or maybe receiving corporal punishment at school.
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I didn't even know they had protective flooring under playground monkey bars, we always had dirt, if you fall you get a mouthful of grass hehehe, it sucked when it happened to you but it sure was funny when it happened to someone else hehehe.
Here's another one:
You're old if you've actually been in a school yard fight which didn't involve weapons of any sort.
Come to think of it the fights were very well set up considering whom set them up, they were always far from the school buildings and any trees or equipment and always on grass, ie. by the time a teacher got there, it was over; and the only pain would come from your opponent.
I remember my first (and only) fight, I won, yay me, my opponent and I became great friends after that.
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In my day grass/dirt was considered protective flooring. Certainly compared to the alternative of concrete or more usually asphalt.
These days the little brats get bark & rubber matting.
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if you know what a Foxboro 40 is and can change the chart and tune the constants
if you were around when that little ol' band from Texas (Z Z Top) became popular
if you ever pumped gas at $0.25/gallon
if you paid $100 for your first car and it started and ran fine for many years
if there was no FM on the radio dial
if records only played mono
if you had the pleasure to meet Dr. Warren L. McCabe in person while at university
Good luck,
Latexman
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and then you still need someone to explain to you how to use it....
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The whiteout/black ink tapes were a much more recent invention.
The whiteout strips that you had to insert manually is more old school.
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That said I just thought of a good one.
You're old if you witnessed one of the Zeppelin Raids on the UK during WWI.
I just thought of this because one radio show in the UK used to have the zeppelin club for such people.
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no I'm not. I'm older that that, I grew up with first PCs and Nintendo NES (Famicom in U.S. I believe). But I have a sister 10 years younger than me who grew up with Pokemon and knew all of them by heart...well, you could tell me if was not better to know all Alex Kid and Super Mario Bros levels but I do believe it was better to know that rather than Pokemon things...
Cyril Guichard
Mechanical Engineer Consultant
France
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I loved that car, sure wish I had kept it....
-The future's so bright I gotta wear shades!
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Then someone got Contra and we lived in their home for two weeks :)
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It was fun to work on you car, and OK to dump the old oil in the weeds behind the house.
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You know you're old when you had to make your own dittos, none of the fancy Xerox mess, and they had to be made from animal skin or stone that you caught or quarried yourself, and you had to walk up hill both ways to get them.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spirit_duplicator
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You know you’re old when the girl who sometimes works in your buildings deli that is the deli owners daughter and you assumed was 16-17 working during holidays/free periods etc turns out to be 21!
I always wondered why any sane man would let his teen daughter work around this many male engineers.
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http://ifaq.wap.org/sex/engineeringlines.html
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"Art without engineering is dreaming; Engineering without art is calculating."
Steven K. Roberts, Technomad
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ME; I read that most people remember where they were when President Kennedy was shot.
SHE; I remember. I was home watching television.
ME; But it was a week day. Why weren't you in school?
SHE; I wasn't old enought to go to school.
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Yup.
SomtingGuy,
Tippex? Okay.
sreid,
I loved that one.
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Albert Einstein
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That was the one and only small vessel model I ever built. Everything else was tanks, large vessels, planes, and spacecraft ("Danger, Will Robinson!!)
Slightly mod to crystal radios -- You're REALLY old if you used a cat's whisker. I used a glass-body diode, so I don't qualify for that
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I was lost as well with this thing :P
Cyril Guichard
Mechanical Engineer Consultant
France
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I can remember Woodstock. I wonder where that puts me?
Regards,
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IRStuff: I remember how thrilled I was week to week watching the original episodes of Lost in Space. It was (is) no doubt lame but was the best TV had to offer until that strange new program came on called Star Trek. I still remember the TV ads leading up to the pilot episode. It was hard to tell what it was all about. (sigh) Those were magic times.
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I remember meeting Barnes Wallis one time... does that make me old?
JMW
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He still has his old IBM typewriter which he actually uses when the computer starts to p*ss him off.
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B.E.
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You met Barnes Wallis. This guy was my hero when I was a teenager. However I am still not old.
B.E.
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You are really old if the name PDP-11 fills you with misty-eyed nostalgia for the good old days before Microsh*te came along and ruined things!
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Nothing like Basic running on a PDP-8, or playing Lunar Lander on same.
Or, the wall of lights that was the computer on the Seaview or the Flying Sub.
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I remember sending off for a free model of Fireball XL5 from Kellogs! So excited when it arrived ! That was around the same era as Supercar/Mike Mercury/Mitch ?
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How about if you remember playing Dungeon on a PDP-11 or VMS? Only text, limited command parser, etc. I found a copy compiled for MS OS's on the internet a few months ago. I gave a copy to my 16 year old son to play for a comparison to Warcraft.
"Wildfires are dangerous, hard to control, and economically catastrophic."
Ben Loosli
Sr IS Technologist
L-3 Communications
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And more of what makes me old: I pay extra $ to have a unix shell account for my email (though I don't do much else with it). But I'm not *that* old--I use emacs, not vi.
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"Wildfires are dangerous, hard to control, and economically catastrophic."
Ben Loosli
Sr IS Technologist
L-3 Communications
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I've never used it; I used TECO
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vi is a good editor, just a steep learning curve. Better than the diabolical edlin of early DOS releases. Who remembers the EVE editor for the VAX?
Going further even further OT - has anyone downloaded the gargantuan Solaris 10 OS for the PC? Whatcha think? Nice to get a copy of a decent OS for free, and it solves my immediate problem of needing an X client without using eXceed and without buying a Sun box.
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btw, CPM80 was the predecessor of CPM86, which was the predecessor of DOS.
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I remember this on one of the first IBM PCs. Middle to late 70's I think. If you do remember, you can only be in one camp and it aint young.
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I remember playing DnD, and I ain't old...just didn't get laid much in high school....I'm sure it wasn't b/c of the DnD.....no....couldn't be that.....
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I think that all it means is that nothings has changed in 30 yrs; nerds still don't have life
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Chris
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ctopher's home (updated 06-21-06)
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Could not have been in the 70's as the IBM PC didn't exist prior to 1981.
Yes, PC's as we used to know them are only 25 years old!
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The Apple ][ entered the market in 1977.
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I remember VM/CMS on an IBM S360 (which took up an entire basement of the building) and using IBM's state of the art PROFS (that is a text editor) to do my resume in university. Oh, the S360 was the top of the line mainframe back then.
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I was born the last year the Steelers won the Superbowl...guess that puts me on the short side of this conversation.
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Your even older if you still have 78 rpm records.
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78 rpm, sure - but do you have any 78 rpm singles?
Of course, if someone has any wax cylinders, that would certainly trump any 78 rpm stuff.
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Tempting to say you're old if you ever owned a record. (Barring certain devotees etc)
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And, those wonderful ink pens that had the India ink reservoirs that you manually filled?
And those little bags of rosin for drying out the ink drawings.
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I was just poor and only had sticks, rocks, and lizards to play with.
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You're old when you could play at a construction site without being kicked off or arrested.
Chris
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ctopher's home (updated 06-21-06)
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You're old when you start in on family history research and find your great-granddad was a Civil War Veteran.
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JMW
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You know your old when you remember teachers made you learn stuff like when the Civil War was and how to do simple math, to know - THE CIVIL WAR ENDED 141 YEARS AGO! How the crap do you get 300 years old?
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How do you get egg off your face?
Or is that another forum?
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Touch harsh but point well made.
I'm sure the UK and US aren't the only countries to have had civil wars referred to as just 'The Civil War'.
Any other takers and how old would it make you!
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I don't think CorBlimeyLimey was harsh at all, some of the "guys" can get real nasty.
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Yes, most Americans are US centric. And, yes, most Europeans are Europe centric (respective of their country).
It's only natural.
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Alas, poor quark, old before his time!
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Harsh, but regretably true !!
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Did anyone record their first programs on audio cassettes ?
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Audio cassettes?
I saved my first program on computer cards - written in HB pencil or sharpie.
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My Korean friends make a big deal about someone turning 31. I found this strange as in the USA most big birthdays are 16 (driveing), 18 (offical adult, voting), and 21 (drinking without sneaking). I was at a 31st birthday party and finally had to ask why 31? The response was they celebrate 31 as being over the hill, as one is closer to 40 than 20.
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Well some countries had revolutions instead e.g. France and Russia and others just had "uprisings".
Of course, the US, just to be sure they weren't missing anything has had both revolution and civil war but not yet an uprising.
JMW
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"Art without engineering is dreaming; Engineering without art is calculating."
Steven K. Roberts, Technomad
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And as blue states, the first countermeasure:
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You will be telling us next that you could go to the sweet store (candy store) and buy a 1/4 of a pound of assorted sweets for sixpence.
B.E.
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You are right, it was 1979 The computer was an IBM mainframe with 18"Winchester drives and terminals that looked like PCs. I remember now they were "dumb" terminals with orange phosphor screens.
IRstuff (Aerospace)
I bought the xerox 820 in 1982, it cost me $7000 with two 8"floppy drives, it actually worked until 2003 but god it was slow compared to a new pc.
B.E.
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I do remember going and buying 1/2 lb of broken biscuits for 6d. or so (and the shopkeeper would throw in some iced gems for free) - biscuits were then sold by weight loose from the manufacturers tins and supplied in paper bags or in paper twists.
The local village hardware store sold just about everything you could want and in the quantities you wanted. They had a huge inventory and if you wanted just one washer, that is what you bought. No bl**dy blister packs of cheap soft metal imports, all top line goods of indigenous manufacture (this was before DIY was a recognised thing.) Those were also the days when cars had starting handles.
Quantum 50,
Revolution etc. may not be that far away for many western countries. In fact I believe there is a US think tank report (optamistic or pesamistic depending on how you view these things) that the EU will come apart in blood and tears. They could be right.
I think they were referring to the original membership who have a past histpory of duffing each other up and internal strife, and not the new members (or potential new members) some of whom appear to be just about getting their latest spell of bloodletting out of the way.
In fact, this might not be a topic for humour but serious concern. Many EU countries have in recent years, had some pretty nasty riots or "incidents" and they must be expected again. Who knows if they will spill over from localised disorder into "uprisings", " revolution" or "anarchy"?
JMW
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You're old if you can remember the sense of achievement if you managed to get your car past 50k miles before it needed it's first decoke (can you still get Redex??).
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Asherang, I've found people from the US to be more insular than people from other European countries. It may be partly because the US has such influence on culture etc in Europe that we pick up some stuff.
According to the 30 year definition I'm still young but,
In the UK you're getting on if you remember 1/2 pennies and definitely old if you remember shillings etc!
Or in the UK you're old if you still can't work out what a kg or m is. Young if inches leave you baffled.
I'm fluent (more or less) in both. Learnt metric at school & imperial at home. Dead handy now I'm in the US.
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And I'm old (but not at heart!)
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How about remembering the rag and bone man and his horse drawn cart? I remember this, does that make me old?
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Naturally, the Navy spec also lists altitude in ft, which I convert to km in the analysis program.
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Tobalcane
"If you avoid failure, you also avoid success."
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http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086567/
Do YOU want to play Global Thermonuclear War?
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"Wildfires are dangerous, hard to control, and economically catastrophic."
Ben Loosli
Sr IS Technologist
L-3 Communications
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How about "It has come to my conclusion that your defense system sucks!"
Tobalcane
"If you avoid failure, you also avoid success."
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