Delete Locked Parameters
Delete Locked Parameters
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Hi all-
I need to remove some parameters form a customer Pro/Engineer wildfire part that I recieved. However, the parameters show "Locked" under the Access column in Tools->Parameters... dialog box. This is not allowing me to delete (or change) these parameters. My guess is they are not meant to be removed (or changed), however, these parameters are causing problems with our data management system and need to be removed.
Does anybody know of a work around for this problem?
Thanks.
-Adam J. Cook
I need to remove some parameters form a customer Pro/Engineer wildfire part that I recieved. However, the parameters show "Locked" under the Access column in Tools->Parameters... dialog box. This is not allowing me to delete (or change) these parameters. My guess is they are not meant to be removed (or changed), however, these parameters are causing problems with our data management system and need to be removed.
Does anybody know of a work around for this problem?
Thanks.
-Adam J. Cook





RE: Delete Locked Parameters
RE: Delete Locked Parameters
There is a way to remove them that involves the old parameter UI and maybe some other config.pro setting.
I just tried the old UI with a part while disconnected from PDMLink and I could not delete the locked parameters. I have done this, but it was an earlier build of WF2.
"Wildfires are dangerous, hard to control, and economically catastrophic."
Ben Loosli
Sr IS Technologist
L-3 Communications
RE: Delete Locked Parameters
Locked—Locked access means that the parameters were created by an "external application" (Data Management System, Analysis Features, Relations, Pro/PROGRAM or Family Tables). Locked parameters can only be modified from within the external application.
Steve
http://www.sprdesign.com
http://www.3dlogix.com
RE: Delete Locked Parameters
"Wildfires are dangerous, hard to control, and economically catastrophic."
Ben Loosli
Sr IS Technologist
L-3 Communications
RE: Delete Locked Parameters
Thanks. I kinda thought it was not possible either. I have another question though. Does anybody know how to prevent Windchill from adding these parameters upon download of the part? I realize this is a Pro/Engineer forum but I'd thought I'd ask it here anyways since it may be helpful.
Thanks.
-Adam J. Cook
RE: Delete Locked Parameters
This will tell you where the parameter comes from, and may help you sniff out where you need to go to delete it.
RE: Delete Locked Parameters
The sources listed are all "Windchill" parameters. However, I cannot return to this application since it is not at our site.
On a side note, I guess it was possible to remove parameters (locked or unlocked) by backing up the part(s), assy(s),...etc. (via File->Backup...) but only in PRE-WILDIFRE versions.
Anybody got any ideas for Wildfire versions (1.0+)?
Thanks.
-Adam J. Cook
RE: Delete Locked Parameters
There is a way, but it's a bit painful......
Open the part, and create a User Defined Feature of every feature after the default datum planes & CSYS.
Now create a new part and insert the UDF, referencing the same default datum planes.
The model is exactly the same, and no Windchill parameters.
This technique can be quite useful for other applications, i.e. how can I convert a model created in Student Version to Commercial Version.....
but if PTC find out, they'll find a way of blocking it........!!!
RE: Delete Locked Parameters
Thanks. It is sort of messy, but its the best suggestion I have heard as of yet.
Anybody got an easier way though?
I appreciate it JohnAndrews.
Thanks.
-Adam J. Cook
RE: Delete Locked Parameters
Steve
http://www.sprdesign.com
http://www.3dlogix.com
RE: Delete Locked Parameters
John
RE: Delete Locked Parameters
RE: Delete Locked Parameters
Can you share with us one of these famous parts?
-Hora
RE: Delete Locked Parameters
Yeah I can share one of the parts. I will use my old shcool account to host this link. Get this part at the following address.
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Thanks for your interest in resolving this issue.
-Adam J. Cook
RE: Delete Locked Parameters
Yeah... They fixed this in Wildfire...
RE: Delete Locked Parameters
Thanks. This is yet another (easier) way to remove these parameters. I appreciate it.
Thanks.
-Adam J. Cook
RE: Delete Locked Parameters
-Hora
RE: Delete Locked Parameters
Yeah I remember backing up the parts in 2001i to get rid of the locked parameters. However, in the Wildfire releases, it appears to be no longer possible to get rid of the locked parameters by backing up the parts. Thanks for the reply though.
-Adam J. Cook
RE: Delete Locked Parameters
Thanks for info. I will try to find a Wildfire license I will take a look at those parameters. Can you tell me if the paramets you have touble are system paramaters? Sorry for the repetetive "parameters"
-Hora
RE: Delete Locked Parameters
Well, I think the exact name for the parameters (from the PTC support documentation) is "Intralink system paramters" which are set and locked by Intralink upon the part entering the system. Tell me if this doesn't answer your question.
Btw, these parts were made in Wildfire 2.0 (I don't have any other licenses anymore). If you really need a Wildifre example part I can probably cook one up.
Thanks in advance.
-Adam J. Cook
RE: Delete Locked Parameters
Then must be the PDMREV, PDMREL, etc. I will keep you in touch.
A back-up outside Intralink should clear them. Give it a try.
See you tomorrow.
-Hora
RE: Delete Locked Parameters
I am sure that you have to do the changes inside Intralink.
Steve
http://www.sprdesign.com
http://www.3dlogix.com
RE: Delete Locked Parameters
Both you are right. I tried too with a 2001 file and, indeed the back-up does not reset the attributes. That's the bad news. The good news is that SAVE AS does!
So, instead a back-up, please perform a SAVE AS. Not part by part, but TOP level assembly. Use the template and the suffix to give them the new names, ex:"_NEW".
Now the tricky part: Remove all components from memory, erase memory, load the newley named assembly, and do again a save as in other folder using this the template and this syntax: "*_NEW" = "*". In this way, all components will be renamed as the originals. And all sytem attributes will be reseted.
Good luck,
-Hora
RE: Delete Locked Parameters
Did you leave out a step??
Steve
http://www.sprdesign.com
http://www.3dlogix.com
RE: Delete Locked Parameters
No I don't have WF. We are still on Pro2001 (part time) Catia became the major CAD here
By the way can you give me the name of these parameters of the Adam's part?
And another thing: Can you take an Intralink part and perform a save as operation? At least we can see if Intralink parameters can be deleted in WF.
Thanks a lot for keeping me in touch. Nasty problem we have here.
-Hora
RE: Delete Locked Parameters
Hora - I will do one better (I hope this works). I put a screenshot of the parameters again on my old school accnt. I cannot give a screenshot here because the picture is larger than 400 pixels square. I guess the parameters are Windchill system parameters, but the important thing is the parameters are locked and cannot be removed not where they can from as I have no access to Windchill or Intralink.
Heres the link:
http://tools.ecn.purdue.edu/~cook5/pub/windchill_parameters.JPG
Thanks for all your help. I really appreciate it.
-Adam J. Cook
RE: Delete Locked Parameters
Indeed these are Windchill parameters. Still looking for a solution to kill them. I'm wondering if ProToolkit let me to access these parameters. I will check the documentation and let you know.
-Hora