ATI x1600 w/512 mb won't display realview graphics
ATI x1600 w/512 mb won't display realview graphics
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Is there anything that can be adjusted or tweaked on my ATI X1600 card to allow it to display the realview graphics?
It's twice the card that the lowest version of the Fire GL is and you'd think it'd be fine to show anything SW has to throw at it.
I hate to sell my x1600 for $200 and buy a $90 Fire GL to just see realview graphics. LoL
thanks in advance
db
It's twice the card that the lowest version of the Fire GL is and you'd think it'd be fine to show anything SW has to throw at it.
I hate to sell my x1600 for $200 and buy a $90 Fire GL to just see realview graphics. LoL
thanks in advance
db






RE: ATI x1600 w/512 mb won't display realview graphics
Chris
Systems Analyst, I.S.
SolidWorks 06 4.1/PDMWorks 06
AutoCAD 06
ctopher's home (updated 06-21-06)
RE: ATI x1600 w/512 mb won't display realview graphics
RE: ATI x1600 w/512 mb won't display realview graphics
One thing is certain--if your card isn't approved by SW, you're on your own. This is the most important stumbling block to remove in attempting to use SW on your computer.
Jeff Mowry
www.industrialdesignhaus.com
Reason trumps all. And awe trumps reason.
RE: ATI x1600 w/512 mb won't display realview graphics
Chris
Systems Analyst, I.S.
SolidWorks 06 4.1/PDMWorks 06
AutoCAD 06
ctopher's home (updated 06-21-06)
RE: ATI x1600 w/512 mb won't display realview graphics
In practical terms the gamer drivers tend to optimize one window, and CAD drivers can handle multiple windows.
There are workarounds (hacks) for some cards. Do some google searching and you'll find some how-to's.
-b
RE: ATI x1600 w/512 mb won't display realview graphics
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Helpful SW websites FAQ559-520
How to get answers to your SW questions FAQ559-1091
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How can it be "all about the money" if a $90 Fire GL card will show RVG, yet a $200 dollar X1600 won't?
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Because the equivilent CAD card to the x1600 is the FireGL V5200, which is a $600+ card. For $90 all you'll get is a 3100V (maybe) which has 1/4 the memory and much less speed.
The gamer and CAD versions of the card are physically almost identical. What your paying for is the privlidge of running the CAD drivers.
-b
RE: ATI x1600 w/512 mb won't display realview graphics
I think this RealView feature parallels this. Sure, you have to have the right drivers for everything to work properly, but that's a bit close to saying you have to have the right software to model complex geometry (such as SolidWorks), which is really too obvious to be worth saying.
Yeah, I imagine the CAD cards make a decent margin for the video companies, but they'll need to do so. The reason is not just that CAD people will pay it, but that the CAD market is considerably smaller, per card, than the gaming market. So custom drivers must be written to make everything work, but for a smaller (CAD) market--which gets into what it costs to reliably support a given feature like RealView.
I was champing at the bit to try out RealView when it came out, but I really don't ever use the feature now, since I often assign materials only in PhotoWorks, and not in the Materials Manager.
Jeff Mowry
www.industrialdesignhaus.com
Reason trumps all. And awe trumps reason.
RE: ATI x1600 w/512 mb won't display realview graphics
I agree 100%. I also don't use realview much either, unless I want to show off some "pretty" quickly to a manager walking by.
Chris
Systems Analyst, I.S.
SolidWorks 06 4.1/PDMWorks 06
AutoCAD 06
ctopher's home (updated 06-21-06)
RE: ATI x1600 w/512 mb won't display realview graphics
Since these are for running a business the users will expect that the products actually work. If the game card has some visual artifacts, they will eventually get around to fixing them, but it's not going to be a priority to be done ASAP.
Of course, as mentioned, the market is smaller and yet there is still a lot of testing to verify funcationality with Solidworks, ProE, Catia, Solid Edge, etc... That's a lot of work for a lower volume product.
RE: ATI x1600 w/512 mb won't display realview graphics
CAD users will pay big $$$ for cards that are stable, because they are using them to make money and can justify the increased expense with increased reliability. Hence the large $$$.
If for some reason CAD users were more price sensitive than gamers, then the CAD cards would actually cost less than the gamer equivilent.
It's not a moral judgement about money grubbing corporations. It's an economic reality of the capitalist system. Gravity isn't mean just because it makes you fall down.
-b
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You could conclude from the last quote that the quadro revenues can not be larger than 22% and are probably much lower. Combining that with the much higher margins on Quadro products shows how small the market for professional GPUs actually is.
Stefan Hamminga
EngIT Solutions
CSWP/Mechanical designer/AI student
RE: ATI x1600 w/512 mb won't display realview graphics
If we were talking selling the only source of water for a small town (such as the lake behind the dam), then we'd be talking about a big influence of such power.
As it is in the tech sector, captitalism is actually generating goods from "nothing"--truly making money instead of merely redistributing it, as Marx's fans would have us understand economics. Certainly, they can charge what the market will bear, but fat margins attracts a great deal of attention from potential competitors who will gladly help themselves to a piece of the pie with a similar product. (I do this myself all the time, pitting my skills and prices against other design firms. And I do it with a twist on the "traditional" design studio that gives me an excellent competitive edge.) Without profit as a goal, we'd have no advanced CAD cards whatsoever.
In fact, we'd have very little.
Jeff Mowry
www.industrialdesignhaus.com
Reason trumps all. And awe trumps reason.
RE: ATI x1600 w/512 mb won't display realview graphics
While there is not a monopoly, I don't think there is too much competition. If there was stiff competition in the CAD market, one would expect the price difference between a CAD and gamer card to be close to the amortized cost of driver development.
I would argue that there is not much competition, and that the barriers to entry are significant. In addition to IP issues, the low-mid level CAD market relies on the gamer market to fund most of the up front costs. Thus the only serious competitors in the CAD market are those that are successful in the much larger gamer market.
As I said before, I'm not making a moral judgement about corporate profit. It's just how capitalism works.
-b
RE: ATI x1600 w/512 mb won't display realview graphics
Jeff Mowry
www.industrialdesignhaus.com
Reason trumps all. And awe trumps reason.