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(OP)
Google word of the day today is:

"pleonasm": the use of more words than are necessary to express an idea.

I will attemt to utilise the concepts implicit in the definition of this word as given above in both my personal and employment-based roles during the course of my diurnal activities on this current date.

M

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Dr Michael F Platten

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How would the story end up?

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The story would end up that the man spent the rest of his days meandering back and forth and all around on the frozen ice of the Arctic, only to end up a new recruit in an Eskimo tribe and later be killed dead.

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JAE (Structural)
Isn't killed dead rather final. I am presuming in that locale he would also be stone cold frozen.
B.E.

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The term "killed dead" is on file at the Department of Redundancy Department.

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I think those redundancies are called tautologies. As in "reverse backwards, and then do a U-turn to face the other way".

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If you could describe me in one word, 'pleonasm' IS that word.

NozzleTwister
Houston, Texas

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I find it deplorable that some people find it necessary to resort to excessive verbosity and repetitive redundancies during the course of what could just as easily be simple discourse.

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electricpete - you have a strangely mysterious and terrifically wonderful way of turning a phrase when you speak.

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I'd like to express my appreciation by thanking you for your compliment to me as provided in your previous post that you wrote immediately preceding this post of mine.

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The individual whom your present interlocutor is in the habit of identifying by way of the perpendicular pronoun would like to congratulate electricpete on his brief, succinct, and above all else, not overly verbose contribution to this discussion.

(With apologies to "Yes Minister".)

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Good one.  I admit I had to google to figure out the meaning of "the perpendicular pronoun".

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I had to google interlocutor.

"Do not worry about your problems with mathematics, I assure you mine are far greater."   
Albert Einstein
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A quote from the company safety plan template;
"Risk Management .....  is an iterative process consisting of steps, which, when undertaken in sequence, enable continual improvement in decision-making to be continued and the safe guarding of persons conducting the work and the environment."

From a company employing thousands, with offices in most continents.

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This is just plain pseudo-disambiguation of what needed no further clarification in the first place.

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Eschew obfuscation!

Rerig

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apsix - that is hilarious - especially considering they weren't trying to be funny.

In addition to the run-on sentence structure and tons of unnecessary words ("persons conducting the work" instead of "workers" or "employees"), I especially enjoyed:
"... enable the continual improvement in decision-making to be continued..."

Sounds like something our managers would come up with.

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Please let them be allowed to sit in the seats reserved for them.

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I'm not sure it is a suitable example of pleonasm, but the following quote made me chuckle when I first heard it (playing Civilization IV on my PC):

"The bureaucracy is expanding to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy."

Cheers,
CanuckMiner

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...ever expanding needs of the expanding... ?

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It's like the t-shirt:  "Department of Redundancy Department"

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One of my self-imposed collateral duties is:
Director of Department of Redundancy Department Dircetor.

"DoDRDD"

This came about after I found a form for un-schedled time off. This form is used to schedule un-scheduled time off, 2 days in advance of the time off. "WHAT !??"

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A few years back I was reviewing a draft regarding a pump:
 
"Depending on the service, wear may be very slight offering the possibility of lives of years while on the other hand whereas is often the case in transportation applications, the solids size is large and concentrations high, it is not unusual to see component lives of several months."

I spent a few hours rewriting the whole thing....

Timing has an awful lot to do with the outcome of a rain dance.

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You are right, this is WAY to explicit and understandable. You should at least put 5 or 6 more double negations in there.
smile

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I was never more foxed by, or found anything more amusing, than some of the patent applications.

What's worse, the ones I was dealing with. These were "translated" from Japanese into "English," but needed to be entirely redrafted.

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Don't use large words when a diminutive one will do the job.

LewTam Inc.
Petrophysicist, Leading Hand, Natural Horseman, Prickle Farmer, Crack Shot, Venerable Yogi.

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