Proven vs proved
Proven vs proved
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I have always used the word 'proven' in a somewhat long past tense plural reference, i.e. "Those theories have been proven before...", and 'proved' in a more immediate past singular tense, i.e. "He proved it by showing me...". I just installed Google's tool-kit spell checker for web page fields and it insisted that there is no such word as 'proven'. Dictionaries however shown 'proven' as being completely synonymous to 'proved' without comment other than list it as a later use, which implies then that 'proved' is/was somewhat more valid. To my ear 'proved' just doesn't sound right in some circumstances. Comments?
By the way, I mean comments on usage. I already know how to edit my Google dictionary!
By the way, I mean comments on usage. I already know how to edit my Google dictionary!
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"I proved the theory, making it a proven theory"
Have I been doing it worng all these years?
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Summary: the folks at American Heritage say both are ok.
Here's a UKish-looking site that seems to say the same:
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Even if you have not proved the theory, it still may be a proven theory if someone else has already proved it.
Even if you have not proven the theory, it still may be a proved theory if someone else has already proven it.
Both sounds okay?
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RE: Proven vs proved
USAGE NOTE Prove has two past participles: proved and proven. Proved is the older form. Proven is a variant. The Middle English spellings of prove included preven, a form that died out in England but survived in Scotland, and the past participle proven, a form that probably rose by analogy with verbs like weave, woven and cleave, cloven. Proven was originally used in Scottish legal contexts, such as The jury ruled that the charges were not proven. In the 20th century, proven has made inroads into the territory once dominated by proved, so that now the two forms compete on equal footing as participles. However, when used as an adjective before a noun, proven is now the more common word: a proven talent.
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Seems to be a valid word, but not a synonym.
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In standard British English, "proved" is the past tense and past participle of "prove". (They proved their point / their point was proved.)
"Proven" derives from a Scottish legal term ("not proven" which is pronounced "proh-ven"), but has spread into general usage (where it is more commonly pronounced "proo-ven"), especially when used as an attribute of a noun; e.g. "His love of precise dates and proven facts".
In America English, and increasingly world-wide, "proved" and "proven" are used more or less interchangeably nowadays.
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(Sorry, I missed stevenal's entry on first reading.)
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After all you can never have too many "ough" constructions...
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