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Hyphenation (Part 2)

Hyphenation (Part 2)

Hyphenation (Part 2)

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Related discussion in thread1010-90297

Should "up to date" be considered a compound word, and be hyphenated as "up-to-date"?

Usage could be similar to, "He needs to keep the Project Folders maintained with up to date data."

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RE: Hyphenation (Part 2)

I believe that when the qualifier is before the noun, as in your example, it should be hyphenated, just like others would be.

Example:

He is a well-liked man.
The man is well liked.

RE: Hyphenation (Part 2)

I agree with ktlasers.

RE: Hyphenation (Part 2)

Yes.

It should either be, "...maintained with up-to-date data." or, "...maintained to ensure that the data is (or, for the purists, are) up to date."

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RE: Hyphenation (Part 2)

If you use Microsoft WORD, it hypen-ates al-most every-thing by de-fault. I've proofed marketing flyers and removed about 15 extra little dashes.

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RE: Hyphenation (Part 2)



I was given to understand there are compound adjectives hyphenated in all positions (not only when preceding the noun), such as:

Adjective + adjective: A red-hot news story; this is red-hot.
Adjective + participle: A foul-smelling plant; deep-fried fish, etc.
Adjective + noun + ed: A big-boned woman; she was big-boned.
Noun + adjective: A country-wide reputation; news of his escape was now country-wide.
Adjectives involving numbers and units: A 30-km journey, a six-foot-tall man.

Some others: air-cooled, far-reaching, never-ending, life-saving, poverty-stricken.

Any comment ?

RE: Hyphenation (Part 2)

According to 'the Little Book': "Hyphen. When two or more words are combined to form a compound adjective, a hyphen is usually required." So, it seems that if the hyphenated expression supports a word, regardless of its type, then it should be used. This is only my interpretation, so to all you style mavens, leave me alone~lol.

Strunk also recommends not using such when the word can be better written in one word...i.e. water-foul=waterfowl. He claims a hyphenated expression will evolve into one, eventually...i.e. co-ordinate=coodinate )from the Huxley days).

I hope this helps in some weird-kind-of way.

H.

RE: Hyphenation (Part 2)

25362--in all your examples, the compound is still modifying a noun.

Exceptions:  adverbs ending in -ly don't get hyphenated.

Good:  well-tempered clavier
Bad:  poorly-edited Eng-Tips post
Good:  poorly edited Eng-Tips post

Hg

Eng-Tips policies:  FAQ731-376

RE: Hyphenation (Part 2)


HgTX, never said otherwise. As adjectives, they are noun modifiers. I referred to ktlasers' message on their location in a sentence.

RE: Hyphenation (Part 2)

shouldn't that be Eng Tips instead of Eng-Tips?
blllttt

RE: Hyphenation (Part 2)

==> shouldn't that be Eng Tips instead of Eng-Tips?

Eng-Tips is a proper noun and thus can be spelled, capitalized, and hyphonated however the owner so chooses.

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