Rumour about SW buying Conisio.
Rumour about SW buying Conisio.
(OP)
Today at my job I heard a rumour about SolidWorks buying Conisio. (For those of you that don't know, Conisio is a program that lets you organize files and projects like PDM).
Anyways, I was wondering if anyone knew for sure or could confirm the rumour.
It could be a good thing as I have heard that Conisio is more powerful than PDM and also a lot more user-friendly. I have not tried it though. Are there any happy (or unhappy) Conisio users out there?
Salutations.
Anyways, I was wondering if anyone knew for sure or could confirm the rumour.
It could be a good thing as I have heard that Conisio is more powerful than PDM and also a lot more user-friendly. I have not tried it though. Are there any happy (or unhappy) Conisio users out there?
Salutations.






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Chris
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Maybe it really is just a rumor, but I was wondering if it could mean that PDM would get replaced by Conisio.
Once again, does anyone have ever used Conisio? Is it really that good?
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RE: Rumour about SW buying Conisio.
I don't believe that PDMWorks is going to go away.
Conisio doesn't really compete with either the high end SmarTeam or the low end PDMWorks. I could see it being acquired to eliminate a competitor and assimilate technology, and possibly fill that mid-level role where it seems to belong.
As a product, I've seen it, and it is easy to use, but my impression was that it had an odd approach to vaulting. It might be one of those products that doesn't change file names or use a proper vault. It might just record the locations of files wherever they are, and manage them from there. That may not be right, but I do remember being not so impressed with their approach to the vault. I did like the rest of the product, though. It uses Windows Explorer for most of the interface and claim to be able to train users in 5 minutes.
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I 100% agree
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Either this is a rumor or SW may want an easier-to-use PDM - PLM application. How many times have you read on this forum about how finicky PDMWorks or SmartTeam is to use? Eating up the competition sounds reasonable also.
Flores
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Have any of you seen the new Easter Egg in SP4.1? Now that's funny.
Flores
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Don't get me wrong - PDMWorks is a great product but it falls way short to a true PLM
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RE: Rumour about SW buying Conisio.
- toolbox (Cimlogic)
- PDMWorks (DesignSource)
- SmarTeam
- Cosmos
- ACIS (Spatial)
Purchasing another wouldn't be out of range.
I don't believe anyone would argue that PDMW is a "true PLM" application. It's usually billed as workgroup file management, which seems appropriate to me.
RE: Rumour about SW buying Conisio.
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We have been satisfied overall with what we need Conisio for, which is primarily basic document management. It is much more powerful than what we actually use it for though.
Our biggest gripe is that there seems to be a number of compatibility issues between Conisio and SolidWorks. We have also been having a lot of SolidWorks crashes and recently I isolated the cause of them – a Conisio add-in in SolidWorks. Support has also been harder to get in recent months.
Within the last few months, I believe Conisio became a Certified SW Gold Partner, so I’m hoping that solves some of the compatibility issues. Also maybe of note is the following release:
“GCS are the authors of Conisio. Based in Stockholm, Sweden, GCS specialize in lifecycle management software for design data. Founded in 1993 as a subsidiary of the German based company Genius CAD-Software GmbH, GCS developed mechanical CAD applications for Autodesk. Prior to acquisition by Autodesk in 1998, more than 150,000 licenses were sold. Between 1998 and 2004, GCS was a fully-owned subsidiary of TurnIT, a public company group. At that time, TurnIT had a turnover in excess of $110M, with over 1,000 employees. In early 2005, GCS were taken into private ownership through a management buyout, and private investors were brought in.”
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Flores
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I wonder if they are going to use its technology to make PDM a lot easier to use.
I searched a little bit about Conisio, and it turns out to be a great program according to most comments I've read (although it does have its flaws).
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Conisio also does a really nice job of managing metadata through SW custom property information...
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My guess is they will salvage it for code or replace PDM/Works (but maybe keep the name). Conisio looks a little more window friendly with it integrating inside Windows Explorer. Might be easier for the casual user to get around in. It also has capabilities that PDM/Works doesn't have like replication for multi-site and workflow with email notification. And it runs off a database which makes linking it other databases easier and makes for better/faster searching.
Jason
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Chris
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ctopher's home site (updated 06-21-05)
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RE: Rumour about SW buying Conisio.
Rob Rodriguez CSWP
President: Northern
Vermont SolidWorks User Group
www.robrodriguez.com (updated 5/01/06)
SW 2006 SP 4.0
RE: Rumour about SW buying Conisio.
Chris
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CONCORD, Mass., May 4, 2006 — SolidWorks Corporation today announced it has acquired GCS Scandinavia AB of Sweden, a SolidWorks® Certified Gold Partner and developer of Conisio® enterprise product data management software.
“SolidWorks recognizes the importance of integrated data management solutions in the product design process,” said Jeff Ray, chief operating officer for SolidWorks Corporation. “The Conisio product line has a proven track record within the SolidWorks customer base and within the SolidWorks reseller community. The acquisition brings us valuable data management technology to meet the needs of customers working to design world-class products.”
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I'm thinking that maybe they consolidate the two and mostly migrate the PDM/Works side to the Conisio interface. It operates inside windows explorer which is easier for the casual user to digest.
Conisio has a built in viewer that opens over 200 file formats, wonder what becomes of eDrawings?
Jason
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Pete
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One of the big limitations of PDMW is multi-site implementation. Conisio can do that. I think we have a Good-Better-Best thing going on here. Conisio will be the Better product offering. Midrange PDM for midrange CAD.
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Wouldn't it be possible though to migrate a PDMWorks vault to a Conisio vault, or is that asking way too much trouble for Solidworks?
Pete
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I just doubt you will see PDMWorks with an implanted database. I also doubt it will go away. I think it will remain as is. If people need multi-site functionality or have a bug up their butt about a "real database", then the sales guys push them up to Conisio.
I'm sure they will write a migration application because a customer moving from PDMW to Conisio would mean increased revenue. To see what's going to happen from here, I think you'll get a good idea if you just follow the money. You don't see an application widely available to migrate to SmarTeam because there are only a handful of consultants who benefit from that. I've seen twice as many people move from SmarTeam to PDMWorks as from PDMW to ST. Mainly because of the bs and cost and technical issues with ST.
Anyway, I just think you will see two separate products, doing what they are best at, entry-level and mid-range file management / PLM. Conisio will fill the role for SW that ST was originally hoped to fill.
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Jason
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Very interesting post.
Thank you for the "tip", please keep the rumour mill going.
Cheers,
Joseph
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Enterprise Edition is offering Conisio AND PDMWorks but not the COSMOS "freebies" or the Routing module.
Premium only offers PDMWorks but includes the COSMOS modules & Routing.
Anyone know how the pricings vary?
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So this doesn't look like it's from Solidworks.
Javelin Technologies provides a complete 3D CAD solution for organizations that need to manage and automate product design data.
SolidWorks Enterprise Edition provides you with a seat of SolidWorks Office Professional plus advanced PDM, custom property management and design automation. Below is a list of the products included with the enterprise edition:
Jason
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The "SolidWorks Enterprise Edition" is in fact a Javelin bundle that we came up with to package up a few things that we think are very useful to a company that wants to really get organized. Currently we price that bundle the same as SolidWorks Premium at the moment just to give you an idea.
While I won't say what SolidWorks plans are for PDMWorks and Conisio are at the moment I can tell you that we at Javelin strongly feel that Conisio is the right choice for a lot of companies. We have had a lot of success with the product. We even use it ourselves to manage our documents. It's easy and packed full of data management goodness.
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Would you care to offer advice for the OP over in the Bad experience with Conisio thread559-154572
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Jason
UG NX2.02.2 on Win2000 SP3
SolidWorks 2006 SP4.0 on WinXP SP2
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RE: Rumour about SW buying Conisio.
Jason
UG NX2.02.2 on Win2000 SP3
SolidWorks 2006 SP4.0 on WinXP SP2
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If you click on the data sheet, the 2nd and 3rd pictures are directly from traditional Conisio. Don't know how long it will be before they start selling this commercially, but it seems like every week or two they are getting more info out about it. I am assuming they a shooting for a pretty aggressive schedule.