Pump Minimum Flow - mechanical protection
Pump Minimum Flow - mechanical protection
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Folks,
I understand that a percentage of the process fluid will recirculate at the eye of impeller and the percentage increases as flow drops. Heat build up due to this recirculation can potentially cause flashing, and hence cavitation as fluid velocity turns into pressure.
I also heard about "mechanical protection" of a pump at low flow. Can anyone please explain why the pump is mechanically unstable when the flow drops below the minimum continuous flow rate?
Perhaps the magnitude of flow reversed (shift in momentum) is so high that the impeller gets exposed to significantly unbalanced force?
I understand that a percentage of the process fluid will recirculate at the eye of impeller and the percentage increases as flow drops. Heat build up due to this recirculation can potentially cause flashing, and hence cavitation as fluid velocity turns into pressure.
I also heard about "mechanical protection" of a pump at low flow. Can anyone please explain why the pump is mechanically unstable when the flow drops below the minimum continuous flow rate?
Perhaps the magnitude of flow reversed (shift in momentum) is so high that the impeller gets exposed to significantly unbalanced force?





RE: Pump Minimum Flow - mechanical protection
Minimum flow bypass/recirculation is on the discharge side of the pump, and usually goes back to the tank from which the pump is drawing from.
RE: Pump Minimum Flow - mechanical protection
RE: Pump Minimum Flow - mechanical protection
one pump manufacturer rep explained to me that they recommend a min flow to protect the seals... for most common applications the pumped fluid is used to refrigerate the seals... with very low flow and constant speed (typical of AC motors)... as anne robinson would say: seal, you are the weakest link! goodbye.
saludos.
a.
RE: Pump Minimum Flow - mechanical protection
Chapter 9 of the Centrifugal Pump User's Guidebook by Sam Yedidiah (Chapman and Hall) is totally devoted to the subject of recirculation (causes and effects).
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RE: Pump Minimum Flow - mechanical protection
There is a thermo effect when operating at low flow. Assume we had a pump that required 100 HP at an arbitrary min flow near shut-in. At this low flow the pump efficiency is only 5%; therefore we have 95% wasted energy or 95 HP that must be dissipated somewhere. A percent of this energy is dissipated in the form of vibration due to caviation that will occur at this operating point. The rest of the wasted energy must be dissipated in the form of heat.
In the metric system the formula for heat rise would be:
Centigrade rise =
((BkW – WkW) * 14.34)/((Q in Ltrs per M)* Specific Heat)
RE: Pump Minimum Flow - mechanical protection
RE: Pump Minimum Flow - mechanical protection
Past threads that may be of help:
thread407-71420
thread124-67169
thread407-105918
thread798-74894
RE: Pump Minimum Flow - mechanical protection
There is a lot of unknown data for this post. What is the NPSHa and NPSHr, how low of a flow is actually expected, what type of seal is used, what is the specific heat of the liquid being pumped, etc.
My concern with cavitation at low flow is the pump housing, shaft and impeller temperature will increase. As fluid enters the pump intake and impeller eye the fluid temperature will increase. Cavitation calculation then has to take into account the new PVT characteristics.
I know that I use the word “IF” too much, but "if" NPSHa under normal operating conditions is close to NPSHr, "if" the pump efficiency is less than 10% at the new operating point and "if" the pump is allowed to operate very long at that point you may want to reconsider the NPSHr. The required pressure at the intake will increase due to the higher fluid temperature.
Historically any restricted flow unit I’ve look at seems to have a very minor change in temperature until you get around 5 to 10 percent efficiency. At that point the temperature increases exponentially. The amount of heat is then based on the amount of HP or power that must be dissipated and the retention time. If your driver is only 10 HP you will not heat the fluid very much however; if it is a large pump that has to dissipate several hundred HP you could be well beyond vapor point at the eye of the impeller with a restricted flow.
D23
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We seem to be talking past each other, possibly because we come from different backgrounds, disciplines and industries. I have never seen any literature to suggest a thermal affect in suction recirculation cavitation. As I stated before, I don't believe it is possible to suppress suction recirculation cavitation with excess NPSH(a). And, since I have seen suction recirculation cavitation even running at or near the best efficiency point, it is obviously not necessarily tied to an efficiency problem. I don't dispute that thermal affects can play in role in some modes of cavitation (more likely discharge recirculation), but I don't believe it plays any role in suction recirculation cavitation at low flow. My comments are based on technical literature, much of it from the Pump Users Symposium as well as 16 years of experience working on API process pumps in an oil refinery. Perhaps we can agree to disagree.
Johnny Pellin
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RE: Pump Minimum Flow - mechanical protection
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Despite my new insights, I will probably continue using my fluid properties and outdated methods to estimate a pump's minimum flow requirements. These methods are based on the problem to be avoided being fluid vaporization and subsequent collapse. Though that is not likely to be the real problem, I can generally come up with an estimated minimum flowrate and it is generally conservative.
Thanks again,
Doug
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RE: Pump Minimum Flow - mechanical protection
Take the heat generated by the pump and apply that to the mass of fluid contained within the recycle line circuit piping to find the increase in temperature of the recycle line contents. Assume that's equal to your pump temp.
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"The heat generated in the pump stuffing box, between the seal faces, and other parts of the system will affect you in multiple ways. It can:
Increase the corrosion rate of any corrosive liquid.
Change critical tolerances.
Destroy some mechanical seal faces.
Shorten the life of any elastomer in the system including grease seals.
Change the state of the product you are pumping from a liquid to a gas or solid.
Increase pipe strain.
Waste valuable energy
Change the viscosity of the bearing oil and eventually cause bearing failure
On the suction side of the pump it can cause cavitation."
RE: Pump Minimum Flow - mechanical protection
In addition to the mentioned problems caused by internal recirculation, I wonder whether there is also a residence time consideration at low flow rates.
When speaking of flow rates significantly lower than the pump's BEP, the liquid has more (residence) time to liberate any dissolved gas when passing through zones of low pressure. Gas liberation affects the pump's performance by reducing both head and efficiency.
Since the solubility of air in some fuels is higher than in water, these effects may be more pronounced, and the NPSH requirements for air-saturated fuels may be much higher than for water.
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What you mention is true and pump efficiency and NPSH available is reduced even with a small amount of entrained air, not air in solution. (And remember that NPSHR is always given for clear cold (50ºF i think) water), but residence time in the tank before it is pumped is more important, as any degassing will occur there. This is especially true of "live" oil that has been produced with some small amount of natural gas entrained in the liquid, but could also hold for water as the soluability of air in water is quite high, but that is of course in solution, not entrained. Once live oil is placed in the suction line and sent to the pump, wheather it's going to the mainline or the recirculation line, no gas is leaving the liquid when its already inside the pipe, unless you stop flow for a considerable length of time. The soluability of air and a lot of common gases is known for water, but I would be interested in finding some exact data on the maximum soluability of air in various types of fuels and other liquid hydrocarbons. Air release valves are often provided for water pipelines. I don't normally increase NPSHRs to allow for air in fuels, but I am generally maintaining rather high NPSHAs, except in the case of hot gasolines (45ºC) where it must often run right at the NPSHR limit. It does seem though that gasoline can run closer to min NPSHs without cavitating than does water, but I've no hard data to back that statement up.
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From past notes, the solubility of air in liquid hydrocarbons, is generally given by the Ostwald coefficient as by ASTM D2779.
It is estimated in two steps starting from a reference value. For hydrocarbons at 273K, this reference value is Co = 0.095, namely 9.5% by volume.
As a first step, a temperature correction is obtained by:
where T is the temperature [K]
Then, a fluid density correction is carried out:
where ρ is the density [kg/m3]
I hope I'm not mistaken.
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Much thx (& *) for your post.
More info about "pumping air", quoted from mcnallyinstitude.com
A centrifugal pump can handle 0.5% air by volume. At 6.0% air, the results can be disastrous. Air gets into a piping system several ways that include:
Through the pump stuffing box. This problem occurs in any packed pump that lifts liquid or pumps from a condenser, evaporator or any piece of equipment that runs in vacuum.
Some pumps are equipped with a repeller that will lower the pressure in the stuffing box
Through valves above the water line.
Through leaking flanges.
Any vortexing fluid.
A pump discharge bypass line that has been installed too close to the pump suction.
The suction inlet pipe is out of fluid. This can occur when the tank level gets too low or there is a false reading on the gauge because the float is stuck on a corroded rod.
Both vaporization and air ingestion have a similar affect on the pump. The bubbles collapse as they pass from the eye of the pump to the higher-pressure side of the impeller. When the bubbles collapse as a result of air ingestion, they do very little damage to the impeller and casing walls. The main effect of air ingestison is loss of capacity.
Although air ingestion and vaporization both create bubbles they have separate solutions. The obvious solution for air ingestion is to stop air from coming into the system by correcting the above problems. Fortunately air ingestion is not as severe as vaporization.
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10% gas in a liquid reduces the liquid's bulk modulus to appx 1/100 th of the original liquid's bulk modulus, thus volumetric changes with pressure are greatly increased. That would have a severe impact on pump efficiency.
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I would like to know the minimum pipe length (distance) reqd in the pump suction which can ensure heat dissipation, thereby ensuring no substantial heat rise, due to minimum flow recycle. I cannot put the recycled liquid back to the tank. I understand that there is some formula to estimate this minimum length reqd at the pump suction & am searching for it. But not being able to get the answer.
Pls anyone can help me out.
Anyways thanks for the reply.
010874
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It ain't easy to dig it up. Do it right the first time.
RE: Pump Minimum Flow - mechanical protection
Erratic, and evidently less predictable, NPSH behaviour of pumps moving gasoline and similar products is not necessarily due to the presence of light constituents; it is considered more likely the dissolved (not just entrained) air would be the culprit when evolved. Hydrocarbons having low vapor pressures are the most likely to become aerated when exposed to the atmosphere.
Tests carried out on lubes, diesel fuels, aircraft fuels and water, showed -with no exception- that the half-life for evolution was always shorter than that for solution, meaning gas evolution is quicker than redissolution. Air-binding effects as explained by Big-Inch may be the result.
If a bulk-station pump was selected using NPSHR on a water basis, its performance can be ruined since the hydrocarbon fluid may absorb great quantities of air when exposed to the atmosphere, and the NPSHR may need a factor of 2.0, or more, of water-NPSHR.
Interestingly enough, when pumping from fractionating towers (ie, air-free) pumps may qualify for about 0.9 of the water-NPSHR.
RE: Pump Minimum Flow - mechanical protection
On the other hand, it is apparent that on centrifugal pumps taking water from a cooling tower, the suction line is shortest to avoid small air bubbles from agglomerating and coalescing into large bubbles thus affecting the pump's performance. Any comment ?