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coming color confusion
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coming color confusion

coming color confusion

(OP)
I observed at the supermarket that the fruits e.g. oranges
are picked in each year in a less ripe condition.

Well, "orange" presently denotes both the fruit and the color.
In a few more years will we call that virulent green
color orange or that spongy and tasteless fruit "green" ?

 

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RE: coming color confusion

"Ooooh. Can it be possibly true? That I, Percy, hold in my hand, a nugget of purest green?"

RE: coming color confusion

Don't forget the green bananas.

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Thomas Watson, chairman of IBM, 1943.
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RE: coming color confusion

Actually, many fruits and vegetables are picked even less ripe than that pale colored presentation that disappoints you at the supermarket. They are then put in sealed rooms and held for sometime in an ethylene atmosphere. This brings them a little closer to maturity.

We Americans want our produce picture perfect without blemish even to the point of sacrificing taste. Since life is so short once ripe, this is the only way to do it.

But that's no substitute for fruits and veggies that ripen on the plant the way Mother Nature intended. Buy your produce from a local farmer or farmers market when possible for real quality.

NozzleTwister
Houston, Texas

RE: coming color confusion

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There is nothing like an apple picked directly from the tree.  The senses are involved in an exceptional way.  To reach up and pull it off.  To smell the wonderful fragrances. To dodge the bees feeding on the ones rotting on the ground.  And the taste and texture!  A thick skinned, bland store bought apple just can't compare.
And that is only apples!  I wish I lived in the country again...

RE: coming color confusion

When I was younger we had 6 acres of orange groves, a very small grove.  We had some hired hands to help pick them and bring them to the local farmers market.  I hated wasting my weekends at the farmers market while all my other friends were surfing at the beach, but I did like that fact that the ripe ones went home with us while the "almost ripe" ones had to go to market.  For those years, it was daily fresh-squeezed orange juice to drink and a couple oranges to snack on.  Then the we had some very cold winters in the late 70’s and we lost all the trees.

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Thomas Watson, chairman of IBM, 1943.
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RE: coming color confusion

The smell of orange blossoms in the air at night is one of my favorite things about Florida. or used to be, before the freezes.

RE: coming color confusion

Thus why I always have at least two simultaneous garden plots and sometimes up to four nearly year round growing fresh veggies. I always purposely grow too much and give a lot away to neighbors and friends. They can't believe how much better fresh picked veggies taste and how they are better in texture.

Wheels within wheels / In a spiral array
A pattern so grand / And complex
Time after time / We lose sight of the way
Our causes can't see / Their effects.

RE: coming color confusion

A recent study reported on how long some of those "fresh fruit and vegetables" are kept in storage using various means to preserve them.

For some it was only a matter of weeks before they passed their sell-by dates, but for others it is a matter of a year or more.

The more one learns about food storage, handling and preparation, the more one begins to wonder how we are all still alive.

My favourite was a visit to a pork pie factory where the workers warned me never to eat a pork pie again.... when they explained what really went into a pork pie I took their advise.

JMW
www.ViscoAnalyser.com

RE: coming color confusion

In central America, a lot of the Orange varieties are deep green. As they ripen, they develop yellow patches. Just before they are completely yellow, they fall off the tree, rotting. I had two "Green" trees in my back yard. Got one now but that's another story.
Frozen orange juice is shipped by the ship load to Texas.

RE: coming color confusion

I've heard that it takes cool nights to make oranges turn orange naturally, which is why California's oranges are better than those from Florida...

RE: coming color confusion

ivymike,
That depends on what they are to be used for.  Florida oranges are uglier and more thin skinned than those from California, making them hard to peel.  The juice, depending on the weather as you pointed out, can be excellent.  Most Florida oranges are used for juice.

RE: coming color confusion

Are oranges orange because oranges are orange or is orange orange because oranges are orange?


Rick Kitson MBA P.Eng

Construction Project Management
From conception to completion
www.kitsonengineering.com

RE: coming color confusion

Damn!  Rick stole my thunder.

Which came first?  Orange the color, or orange the fruit?  Were oranges called that because they were orange, or was the color named after the fruit?

I like Rick's phrasing better.

RE: coming color confusion

I looked it up after I made the posting.

Orange is orange because oranges are orange.

Prior to oranges being discovered in the New World the colour was called geoluhread (yellow-red)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orange

I’d have guessed the other way around since orange existed in the Old World before oranges were discovered in the New World.

In any case makes for good coffee break talk.

Learn something new every day!

Now if I only knew what rhymes with orange.

Rick Kitson MBA P.Eng

Construction Project Management
From conception to completion
www.kitsonengineering.com

RE: coming color confusion

That depends on your accent. How you  pronounce 'orange'?  With a (Home, Home on the) 'range' sound, or with a 'andj' or 'indj' sound.

I use the latter, so IMO these do;
binge
cringe
dinge
fringe
hinge
minge
singe
tinge
whinge

cheers
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RE: coming color confusion

There is no word that rhymes with orange.

There are several made up words that rhyme and some close if you slightly mispronounce one or more of them.

It is the most common word in the English language that does not have a rhyme.

That’s according to the link I posted above.

Rick Kitson MBA P.Eng

Construction Project Management
From conception to completion
www.kitsonengineering.com

RE: coming color confusion

Funny, we all READ the same language.

RE: coming color confusion

RDK ... Like I wrote, "That depends on your accent." With mine I pronounce "orange" as "orinj", so the list I supplied works fine for me. It would also work for most of the inhabitants from my original neck of the woods. I'm not saying we pronounce it correctly, or in accordance with any dictionary & most definitely not per 'the Queens english'.

Other words supposedly unable to be rhymed are Silver, Purple and Month. But that depends on the rule you apply to a rhyming word. Does it have to rhyme with the majority of the word (e.g. Silver -> ilver, Purple -> urple, Month -> onth), or just the last syllable only? (e.g. Silver -> ver, Purple -> ple).

Orange you glad you asked?

cheers
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How to get answers to your SW questions  FAQ559-1091

RE: coming color confusion

hmm... I pronounce it more like "arrng."  Must've been bound apprentice to a pirate.

RE: coming color confusion

chimney, depth, month, orange, pint, purple, silver, and wasp

oh and also I stole this off the web:

There once was a man from Fort Orange
Who longed to make rhymes using "orange".
He gave up in despair,
Hung himself in midair,
Where he swings to and fro like a door-'inge.



Cheers

Greg Locock

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