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imsengr (Structural) (OP)
18 Jan 06 11:33
Is there a command that can "bring an object to front" or "send an object to back". For instance, I have a circle with a number and some criss-crossing lines occupying the same space in my drawing. When I print, I want the circle with the number to show, but I do not want the criss-crossing lines to show inside the circle.

In other words, I want the circle with the number to be on "top" and the criss-crossing lines to be "below".  The criss-crossing lines that are under the circle and number would be "hidden", and thus, not show on the drawing.

Can AutoCAD 2002 do this? How does it do it?  Is it a matter of assigning "levels" to a particular object so that, maybe, an object with a "higher" level than another shows up on top, while the object with a "lower" level shows up underneath, and part of the "lower" level may be covered by a "higher" level?

Thanks, and hope someone can help.
lpseifert (Civil/Environmental)
18 Jan 06 11:38

Acad2005, Terramodel

imsengr (Structural) (OP)
18 Jan 06 12:06
Thanks for the prompt response, Ipseifert.  However, how does one actually use "DRAWORDER"?  Hope you can provide step-by-step instructions using the example provided.

Anyway, when I type the "DRAWORDER" command, it says "Select Objects". I presume I will select the circle and number per my example, and hit "Enter".  AutoCAD then asks for "Enter object ordering option".  I key in "A" for "Above Object".

Now, AutoCAD asks for "Select Reference Object", and I am not sure what it is asking for??  I tried selecting the objects that will be "under" the circle and number, but it doesn't seem to work ...

Hope you can help some more ...
xgrigorix (Specifier/Regulator)
18 Jan 06 12:08
draworder works for the display only

hit f1 and search for wipeout

not sure if wipeout is available in acad 2k2, but that is certainly the command that you are after
imsengr (Structural) (OP)
18 Jan 06 12:18
Hi, xgrigorix.

I hit F1 and typed in "WIPEOUT", but AutoCAD 2002 returned with "Unknown Command".

Guess it is not available in the 2002 version.  Any more suggestions?
lpseifert (Civil/Environmental)
18 Jan 06 13:07
Type draworder. Select the cicle and text. Type "F" for front. This should bring the circle and text above (to the front) of all other entities.
Wipeout is an express tool, it will only work if you have the express tools loaded.

Acad2005, Terramodel

imsengr (Structural) (OP)
18 Jan 06 13:42
Hi Ipseifert, I did everything you said to do.
1. Type draworder.
2. Select the circle and number.
3. Type f.

Nothing changes on the display, and nothing changes on the printout.

I even selected the criss-crossing lines and selected back. That didn't seem to help either.  Am I missing something? (Yeah, I know ... a brain ... but that's not what I meant.)

Hope you can provide some more suggestions.
BobM3 (Mechanical)
18 Jan 06 15:14
If you like menu options:  Choose "Tools" menu and "Display Order" submenu then simply click on the item you want moved to front or back.

But - a circle is transparent, even if you bring it forward things behind it will show up.
imsengr (Structural) (OP)
18 Jan 06 15:54
Hi BobM3

Yeah, right ... it's all coming back to me now.  My circle is transparent, just a single round line, so whether it is "front" or "back", the things behind it still shows up.

Is there a way I can make my circle solid without filling it in with a solid color?  If my circle were "filled in", as it were, the lines behind it won't show, but then, I cannot put in a number in my circle.

Okay, what I am trying to do it to label a part of my drawing. It is actually an opening that I have criss-crossed at the corners.  Now, I want to put in a label for the opening.  My "circle" is actually a hexagon with a letter, in this case "D".  I want to put that hexagon in the center of the opening, but I don't want the criss-crossing lines behind it to show where the hexagon is.  I do want the criss-crossing lines to show outside of my hexagon.

Can anybody suggest what is the best way to do this?  Thanks a bunch.
BobM3 (Mechanical)
18 Jan 06 16:23
Can you "trim" the lines at the hex boundry?
imsengr (Structural) (OP)
18 Jan 06 16:26
Yeah, I could "trim" the lines at the hex boundary, and that was what I was going to do initially. However, I thought there was a more "elegant" way to do this.  Anyway, I tried to find out if there was indeed a "better" way to do it, but it appears there may not be - what with my transparent hexagon and all - so it's back to the basics, I guess.

Thanks, everyone.
fi3l2 (Aerospace)
25 Jan 06 9:05
Well you could put the lines in a different layer and hide that layer. that would "hide" those crossing lines.
IFRs (Petroleum)
25 Jan 06 11:26
If you make the hexagon a solid, put it at a z coordinate above the cross hatch and plot hidden it should hide below it.  I think if you put the text above the hexagon it will print also.  Another method would be to use a hatch for the lines and select the hexagon as an island.

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